OnkSauce 3 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Want to start out by saying this isn't saying that I necessarily dislike our guys, there's just some I prefer less than others. Mine is Bertuzzi. He's been a healthy scratch lately and it's easy to see why. He's old and he just plays slow which doesn't really fit with the team. There's going to be a lot of repeats and that's fine, just state your reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Franzen, Franzen, and Franzen 2 Hockeymom1960 and Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 I don't necessarily dislike anyone, our guys have their own roles and most are pretty good at them problem is our top 6 is a lot of the same typ of players and Abby doesn't belong in the top 6. If I had to pick though it would be kindl and lashoff they just can't seem to do anything right offensively and rarely anything good defensively 1 OnkSauce reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 This thread should be good. But it's gotta be Franzen, 6'3 223 and plays like Hudler 95% of the time, without the hustle. He could dominate games, but floats and is just generally lazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Kindl didn't like the pick then and for sure don't like it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 I like everyone who is currently in the lineup except kindl and lashoff. Sproul looked so much better than them in the one game he played. I kind of hope Babcock will take a gamble and play an unproven defenseman like Sproul or Oulette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 I like everyone who is currently in the lineup except kindl and lashoff. Sproul looked so much better than them in the one game he played. I kind of hope Babcock will take a gamble and play an unproven defenseman like Sproul or Oulette Ouellet has been recalled and is practicing with the team. Could be in for game 4 2 wingsfan4795 and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Miller probably. He really adds very little, even in PK, despite all the credit he gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Kindl is the only one for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnkSauce 3 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 "problem is our top 6 is a lot of the same typ of players and Abby doesn't belong in the top 6." Is Abs a top 6 player? Probably not. But he goes so well with Pav. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Kindl and Lashoff brutal both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Lashoff, Kindl, and Quincey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Franzen - he's extremely lazy. I like guys that compete every shift. When he's not on a "hot streak" he's basically invisible and not engaged at all. Cleary - hammer hands hunting logos from the side boards and falling down is depressing. Thank god he hasn't played in a long time. KFQ - despite his mild turnaround in being less stupid consistently, he still has too many poor defensive lapses and every time he shoots, it's way wide or is a lame not even half speed shot that usually eats shin pads. Kindl - see Quincey with a side of oversized wussy. His stretch passes are terrible, or they're icing and he assassinates more shinpads than KFQ. Sammy is irrelevant at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Least favorite player, without question - Mikael Samuelsson Most undeserved hated on player - Kyle Quincey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PumpIron 40 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Legwand,Cleary,Kindl,Anderson. Weiss to even though hasnt had much chance but the time he had nothing special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Franzen -- nothing worse than watching a player who could do more lazily skate around and say scoring goals isn't his priority. He doesn't even deserve the playoff performer fallback excuse anymore either. Hasn't done s*** in the playoffs for four years now. So sick of watching this bum have fun for a handful of games and then disappear the rest of a season. 1 Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 if a guy lacks talent, that isn't on him. You can only use what God gave you. But when you have a player that is full of talent and only shows up 15 games per year, that drives me crazy. So yes: Franzen. I wish Holland had the ba11s to buy him out. he is a bad influence on the young guys. Give me guys with some heart and fire in their bellies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Boyd Deveraux Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingnut in WA 86 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Kirk Matlby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAWings 160 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Glendening. I'm sure he's a great kid, but he produces zero offense. I don't understand the love affair Babs has with him, for a team that is offense starved the last few years, why bring on a guy that produces nothing? He's in the top 5 of least producing Wing forwards we've EVER had, I think top 3 actually. So what if he brings his lunch pail to work every day... he just doesn't produce anything while at work. Most companies fire you for that. 1 datsyukian_13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRAPES RULES 7 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Cory Cross ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Franzen and Kindl. Is there really a debate about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I rarely actively dislike any of our guys. It takes a lot to make me really not like someone. But of guys we have now that are actually playing, the guy who irritates me the most, who I think I'd love to see shipped out at this point, it's not surprisingly Mr. Franzen. I'd give him a lot more benefit of the doubt if he didn't say so many stupid things to top off his lazy, colossally inconsistent play. He could be so much better than he is, but he just doesn't seem to be able to consistently put forth the work ethic. That he is largely the reason Holland passed on Hossa does him no favors either... Edited April 23, 2014 by gcom007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaZel 19 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Mikael Samuelsson, Jason Williams, and now Johan Franzen. Franzen has 8 points and 1 goal in the last 21 games. This is including the crunch-time regular season stretch where we needed our team firing on all cylinders to make it into the playoffs and then the playoffs themselves. This man is a fraud. I'm sorry, but that doesn't cut it for the 3rd highest paid (albeit healthy) forward on the team who happens to also be signed for the next 6 years. I'm glad that I, like many others here, will have the opportunity to stay frustrated at our least favorite Red Wing (barring some miracle that he's bought out or traded) for more than the next half a decade. Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho613 74 Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Franzen. Hate him, have since day one. My buddies ragged on me in 2008 when I kept saying he wasn't that good, now they agree with me. Man I wish we signed Hossa instead. At this point I just want Franzen gone, don't care just get rid of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites