Richdg 267 Report post Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) 1) Richards had $2million+ per year extra on his contract than does Franzen. Paying nearly $7 million for a support player is a hell of a lot worse than paying $4 million 2) If we bought out Franzen, who realistically, are we going to get those goals from? 1 individual it definitely will not come from. If you want KH to find someone through free agency or trades, then we're either going to sacrifice a massive amount of cap space (by signing say Vanek for $7million which he isn't worth) or give up a sh** ton of prospects just to acquire someone good enough to score 30 goals. So why would you do that when you have someone, inspire of their flaws, who does those things, yet at a price that allows this team to have cap flexibility? 16/17 goals is not that hard to replace. If there was no Franzen we would have 15/16 million in cap space to find replacements. That is more than enough to bring in 2 big time contracts/players. be it as UFA's or via trades. Yes you give up prospects, so what? 2 out of 3 fail to turn into anything. What did we give up to get Shanahan again? A 25 year old C that played a 200ft game and was coming off of a 26 goal season. Edited June 21, 2014 by Richdg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) Toots can move to Tampa Bay with Brad Richards and Valtteri, and play great and make the Wings look bad. LOL~ With St. Louis gone, TB needs another little dude like Jordin. Best wishes, Toots, I liked you as a Wing. Edited June 21, 2014 by puckloo39 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 22, 2014 You and others defending Franzen/keeping him are making circular arguements. "we can't buy him out because we don't have anyone better". That is BS. After the Rags bought out Richards who out performed Franzen this year in every way, your point holds less water. Richards is younger, doesn't have a concussion history, played more games, scored more goals, had more points, and yet the Rags REALIZED their mistake and bought him out. Why? Because they knew this was their best chance to get out from under his bad contract. They now have a roster spot open and cap room to go out and get better players. I know it is pretty complicated. Cut the crap and bring in better players. Wonder why our GM can't seem to figure this out.Richards did not out play franzen.For proof, see the Richards thread. also. Stop turning every thread into something about franzen. This thread is about tootoo being bought out, not another franzen hate thread. 3 wings4thecup06, FlashyG and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 Anyone else think Trotz may request that Tootoo be brought to Washington? 1 frankgrimes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 23, 2014 I hope so. He deserves another shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted September 20, 2014 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/jordin-tootoo-trying-out-for-new-jersey-devils-1.2767590 Here's hoping he gets a job. HATED him as a Pred, loved him as a Wing, felt bad for him as a Griffin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted September 20, 2014 All the best to Jordin Tootoo, I hope he becomes a Devil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 20, 2014 I hope this works out for him, even though I'll feel dirty cheering for the Devils. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted September 20, 2014 I feel worse cheering for the devils now that Martys roaming around as a free agent, but tootoos too damn endearing not to stick somewhere. I hope for nothing but the best for him, and hope he plays it classy when he plays us, just so I can keep rooting for him. He didnt b**CH and moan about going to gr, and didn't act all high and mighty once he was there... That video of him giving his stick to that kid made me respect him a lot more... 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 21, 2014 I feel worse cheering for the devils now that Martys roaming around as a free agent, but tootoos too damn endearing not to stick somewhere. I hope for nothing but the best for him, and hope he plays it classy when he plays us, just so I can keep rooting for him. He didnt b**CH and moan about going to gr, and didn't act all high and mighty once he was there... That video of him giving his stick to that kid made me respect him a lot more... I wish him the best too but I think he will play very very hard when the Wings come to town, because he knows no one the Wings is going to fight him or else... I think he will fit in fine with the Devils taking on the lesser guys while Jensen gets the heavyweights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites