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2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

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At this point why not take a flier on McBain for the third pair and trade Kindl. That, at least, is an improvement. And given his age he could still grow into something better.

That would signal that Holland has given up on Kindl. I'm not sure he's capable of that.

I'm beginning to think he may just re-sign Q and go that route. FML.

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Dallas is making moves, trying to improve, and players aren't refusing to sign there.

Tampa Bay is making moves, trying to improve, and players aren't refusing to sign there.

Am I sensing a theme?

People who know history know that Holland didn't build those late 90's Cup teams. He spent to maintain them (02) after they had been built by Bowman and his predecessors. Furthermore, Holland was lucky in 08 and 09. (See Joe Dumars for reference). Having the best defenseman in a generation (along with prime Dats and Z) can do that to an organization. He didn't build the Wings championships and he sure as hell can't build them now.

People shouldn't be complaining about getting fleeced in the Legwand deal. The team got fleeced in losing Yzerman and Nill.

As I said before, Holland is like a trust fund baby that ends up blowing all the money he was given. He's withered this team down into mediocrity.

Unfortunately, our owner is senile and is eating peanuts at Tiger games.

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...not unless there is a trade to be had, but hell, even Buffalo and Florida are getting better...

Kenny, nobody cares that its Detroit, Original 6, Storied Franchise, Rich History...they aren't going to come here for less money and they aren't going to come here to lose. You failed this team over and over and over again. You failed these fans...you haven't won crap without a Scotty Bowman influenced team...Even Lidstrom recognized this and left us...

Holland needs to step up NOW and tell Niskanen...$8M, 7 years...let's do this! And show the entire NHL that he is serious about making this city THE only logical choice for UFA's... I feel so bad for Datsyuk....Zetterberg should ask for a trade. He will rot here for the rest of his contract if he doesn't get out now...

and yet holland did offer boyle and ehrhoff better contracts, yet they still went somewhere else.

panicking and massively overpaying for niskanen would be a huge mistake. i say roll with the kids and see what happens at this point

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Andrej Meszaros? Had 22 points in 52 game least season. Big guy 6-2 223lbs. Could be an option.

When someone asked "who's left?" This is who I was thinking of too.

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You're assuming Kenny would actually pull the trigger on a trade of any kind.

Good point.

Honestly, at this point I'd let Quincey go, I'd let Alfie go, and I'd fill every available spot with a kid. At least keep the damage to a minimum. Don't make it worse by making panic moves (see: Samuelsson, Legwand, etc.).

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Its going to be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG season coming up if something does not happen to make a significant improvement ;)

There's really nothing to do at this point in my opinion. Wings are going to have to give to get and it's not a quick fix anyway. This could be the season the Wings miss the playoffs.

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and yet holland did offer boyle and ehrhoff better contracts, yet they still went somewhere else.

panicking and massively overpaying for niskanen would be a huge mistake. i say roll with the kids and see what happens at this point

We already saw last season.

The kids are getting better, but the team isn't good enough to win more than one playoff round.

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And that would be a horrible mistake. In 4 years that will be a horrible deal IMO. Standing pat in a weak free agent market may actually turn out to be a very smart move for KH

No. I was thinking maybe Kenny is a mad genius, but I think it's reasonably clear that he's just plain mad.

Prove me wrong, Kenneth.

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Andrej Meszaros? Had 22 points in 52 game least season. Big guy 6-2 223lbs. Could be an option.

I watch a lot of Flyers games, and really didn't like what I saw from him when he was there.

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Did Dallas or TBL sign anyone the Wings, or you, wanted to sign? Making a move just to make a move isn't what the Wings need IMO.

Dallas and Tampa are making moves to try to improve their clubs. They aren't necessarily in direct competition with the Wings for the same players. This is an apples to oranges comparison.

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Unlike these other GM's, Holland has something called immunity.

Immunity at one's job makes one not have to take risks. Holland isn't going to overpay someone (unless it's Quincey or Samuelsson).

Holland knows Ilitch isn't going to do anything to him. So does everyone else here.

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Dallas and Tampa are making moves to try to improve their clubs. They aren't necessarily in direct competition with the Wings for the same players. This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Uhhh. We are in the same division as Tampa... so... we kinda are.

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Maybe we're going for McDavid or Eichel.

If Holland traded for McGrattan right now, I'd immediately proclaim him the best GM in the league, and spend the next three hours vehemently defending him from all you scoundrels in this thread.

:hehe:

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Hank should really request a trade. He was so frustrated after that dominating playoff series vs Boston and was so eager for some improvements in the summer that aren't coming.

He deserves better.

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LET'S GO WINGS, WOOOO!!!!!

All we need for a Cup is to be healthy, DUH!

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