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#1501 arag

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 11:51 PM

Sign me up aboard the Myers train. I've always liked the guy. I don't have much more to add other than the obvious which has already been said (he's huge Dman RH shot). But are there any rumours out there that were actually going for him??

Nothing new. Just the old stuff.
Boychuk would be nice too. However Boston will not trade with us. I think.

Edited by arag, 02 July 2014 - 11:54 PM.


#1502 SwedeLundin77

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 12:36 AM

Sign me up aboard the Myers train. I've always liked the guy. I don't have much more to add other than the obvious which has already been said (he's  huge Dman RH shot). But are there any rumours out there that were actually going for him??

 

There have been rumors that Holland was/is talking to Buffalo about possibly acquiring him, but not sure how that stands now....  Mike Green seems to be the name now, most likely to move.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 01:22 AM

If you hate Helen St. James as much as I do, do yourself a favor and read this.  It takes hackery to an entirely new level.  If I'm understanding this correctly, especially the last paragraph, her argument seems to be, "Wings fans shouldn't be upset about free agency because this year FAs had reasons to go elsewhere".  Which, apparently, is totally different than every other year when free agents just sign willy nilly.  Daniel Alfredsson leaves Ottawa after 17 years and it's "time for a change of scenery", but Dan Boyle signs with NYR and it's "couldn't be avoided, he and Martin St. Louis played together ten years ago". 

 

She actually suggested that Niskanen signed in Washington because his former coach now coaches there.  As if that's special.  If that's all it takes to woo FAs can we hurry up and hire some former assistant coaches?

 

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Edited by kipwinger, 03 July 2014 - 01:25 AM.

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Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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#1504 wings4thecup06

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 03:44 AM

 

 

It's a long post, so I bolded the things I agree with, and italicized the things I don't.  My main counterpoints are as follows:  1)  The fact that we're not having losing seasons is not a good reason to avoid making smart personnel moves.  Pittsburgh fired their GM and coach after 4 or 5 early playoff exits.  We pat ours on the back and tell them they did a good job because at least they weren't as bad as Buffalo  2)  Our standards as an organization should be higher than "competing in a weak conference".  Holland used to say he wanted to challenge for the cup every year.  Now he's content to scrape into the playoffs and "see what happens.  3)  It's not either/or when it comes to letting kids play vs. acquiring pieces we need.  We've got more kids than spots.  Some of them can be used to acquire players that help us now.  We can't give all of Quellet, Sproul, Marchenko, Backman, and Jenson spots.  Not while keeping Knonwall, Ericsson, Smith, and Dekeyser.  Likewise there's probably not enough room for all of Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Pulkkinen, Sheahan, Mantha with the roster we have.  And IF you keep all those guys then there's definitely not room for all of Helm, Glendening, Miller, Abby.  And all of that is assuming that Kindl is traded, Lashoff is traded, Andersson is traded. 

 

Oh, and before the ill advised Quincey signing we also had about  14 million in cap space to do it. 

 

Fact is, we've got more than enough assets to make our team competitive now without mortgaging the organization's future.  So why not do it?

 

You make some good counter points sir, so I will respond in kind. 

 

While yes it is perfectly acceptable to make personnel changes without having losing seasons, I think our club has direction for the next couple of years and is trending up - that being the maturity and addition to the lineup of young, high potential players which complement our core players and provide vital depth. I don't think we can sit here and blame KH for not being able to sign FA's. Nor trading for the likes of Kesler, Spezza. If they don;t want to come it doesn't matter what it costs. (but we've been over that a thousand times elsewhere). 

 

The fact that the East is a weak conference right now is simply that. A fact. Obviously, that is something we can use to our advantage. But I don;t feel KH has become satisfied. Would everyone be bashing him if he'd been able to sign Niskanen? Last year he got the top 2 free agents on his list - what if Weiss hadn't been a bust and had potted 60 points? Lambast me for this all you will, but it's a different era now, and as teams are re-signing their key players before they hit free agency, you're going to have to give up a ton in a trade. I'm not adverse to trading for the right guy, if the price is right obviously. But I wonder right now if KH is holding onto his pieces until we are in the position where such an acquisition would put us over the top. 

 

This feeds into the lack of roster spots point you make also. Not all of those guys are NHL ready right now. But maybe, by the time march rolls around, if this team is doing really well, then we can use a couple of those pieces to acquire that top 2 D man we so desperately need. 


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#1505 amato

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:21 AM

Kopecky? 


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Edited by amato, 03 July 2014 - 06:21 AM.

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#1506 e_prime

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 07:56 AM

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As of last night, Toronto among the interested teams awaiting word from David Legwand following contract offer.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:33 AM

https://twitter.com/...705768134832128

What on earth are we supposed to do with Santorelli??

 

And how do I post tweets so they show up automatically? :P


Edited by Ekmanc, 03 July 2014 - 09:35 AM.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:41 AM

If you hate Helen St. James as much as I do, do yourself a favor and read this.  It takes hackery to an entirely new level.  If I'm understanding this correctly, especially the last paragraph, her argument seems to be, "Wings fans shouldn't be upset about free agency because this year FAs had reasons to go elsewhere".  Which, apparently, is totally different than every other year when free agents just sign willy nilly.  Daniel Alfredsson leaves Ottawa after 17 years and it's "time for a change of scenery", but Dan Boyle signs with NYR and it's "couldn't be avoided, he and Martin St. Louis played together ten years ago". 
 
She actually suggested that Niskanen signed in Washington because his former coach now coaches there.  As if that's special.  If that's all it takes to woo FAs can we hurry up and hire some former assistant coaches?
 
http://www.freep.com...-wings-optimism

I hate her journalism, but I do think there's some merit in the idea that players are signing contracts to teams that can provide familiarity. It was the main theme of the Suter and Parise sweepstakes, and they ended up together, in Minnesota, with family. The Sudin twins refuse to be separated. We recently saw two of the Staals united in Carolina. Weiss signs in Detroit, having been familiar with the area during his time with the Whalers. Dekeyser has been a Red Wing in his mind all throughout his hockey development, growing up in Michigan. This whole Niskanen thing seemed to play out similarly. Niskanen relied on Orpik to scout out Washington and the team and let him know what Orpik thought. It certainly doesn't hurt that his former coach was also in the system (Niskanen actually mentioned the familiarity of playing for his old asst coach and playing with Orpik as one of the reasons he went to Washington here: http://video.nhl.com...27797&lang=en).
I don't think these things mattered so much in the past, because there was no cap and team contracts weren't equal. Now, if you want to get paid, the only teams that can afford an outrageous contract are bottom feeders, while the most competitive teams are tight against the cap. There's now a $ value for each player, and there isn't going to be much difference in contract amount offered between playoff teams (maybe a million or so, or year or two). If contracts are roughly equal, why not sign with the team where your old friends are playing, or that team that's near where you grew up?
Having said that, it's still an issue that the Wings organization needs to overcome. Erhoff signed with the Pens on a discount and short term presumably to be on a team that has a chance at the Cup, or play with Crosby/Malkin. Richards signed in Chicago, again, likely because of their odds of winning a Cup, and maybe playing alongside Kane/Toews etc. Holland needs to do something to the team to make players want to come here over going to places that can provide familiarity. The first step is moving the Wings from a fringe playoff team to one that is expected to go deep every year. I personally think that starts with a top 2 defensman ala Yandle (or someone at that level). We aren't going to get a top player in free agency. They can go anywhere and get the same money Holland can offer them, but also play in front of family or whatever elsewhere. This needs to happen via a trade (which I absolutely hate, because trades are such an inefficient way to acquire a player), or we can wait and see if one of our prospects develops into a franchise player. I guess the bottom line here is that Holland needs to change his game plan from expecting to get top talent in free agency every year to fill in the holes, and start actively working on making free agents want to come here.


Edited by Echolalia, 03 July 2014 - 10:42 AM.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:49 AM

https://twitter.com/...705768134832128

What on earth are we supposed to do with Santorelli??

 

And how do I post tweets so they show up automatically? :P

 

My firewall at work prohibits access to twitter.

 

What does it say?


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#1510 Bring Back The Bruise Bros

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:53 AM

Minnesota has signed AHL bruiser Joel Rechlicz to a one-year, two-way contract.

Philadelphia has signed Zack Stortini to a one-year, two-way contract.

 
My firewall at work prohibits access to twitter.
 
What does it say?

Eklund claims Ken is interested in Mike Santorelli.

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#1511 Tr!PoD#19

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

Ffs kenny

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:18 AM

If you hate Helen St. James as much as I do,

 

 

 

Wait, are you talking about the Helen "President of the Dan Cleary Fan Club" St. James?

 

If so, then yes I hate her as much as you do.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:57 AM

https://twitter.com/...705768134832128

What on earth are we supposed to do with Santorelli??

 

And how do I post tweets so they show up automatically? :P

 

it's eklund... i wouldn't read too much into it.

 

and as far as posting tweets go, I usually just copy and paste.


Hockey Buzz Eklund @Eklund 1h

hearing Red Wings with interest in former Norther Michigan Star Mike Santorelli


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:07 AM

Khan retweeted from Aaron Ward that the Caps are not interested in trading Green at this time.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:08 AM

Khan retweeted from Aaron Ward that the Caps are not interested in trading Green at this time.

Thank god!!!



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:10 AM

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 6m

As of last night, Toronto among the interested teams awaiting word from David Legwand following contract offer.

 

Good, I hope he leaves. With Weiss returning and Legwand showing no ability to play on a lower line, bringing him back could turn into a disaster. 


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#1517 Hockeymom1960

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:43 AM

I full expect Weiss to be hurt again this season so I'm not excited at all in him returning.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:56 AM

Mrazek's contract for 2015-2016 is a one way deal. Nothing surprising there. We knew was in line to be the back-up.

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 12:47 PM

I full expect Weiss to be hurt again this season so I'm not excited at all in him returning.

 

Why? That's a little pessimistic.  Weiss had a freak year because he pushed himself to be ready.  It's all stemming from one injury.  He has had lots of time to recover and I don't think he's particular injury prone.  I think he stands as much a chance as anyone to be healthy this year. 

 

I predict week-long-plus injuries to Datsyuk, Ericsson, Kronwall, Helm and Franzen, but not Weiss.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

lecavalier possibly to the sens.

 

 

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