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#1801 kliq

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 10:55 AM

These are the type of low risk, high reward signings that I wish Holland would make more often. I'm not saying that Setoguchi will come back to his '08-'09 form and put up over 60 points, especially with a s***ty Calgary team, but on a good team, I do think he is still capable of chipping in offensively. He's a big body, right handed shot that definitely could have put up 40+ points on this team. I know, I know, we already have an over loaded roster up front, but is there anybody that wouldn't take a gamble on this kid over at least 3 or 4 forwards on our current roster? I definitely would. Our bottom 6 is loaded with guys that haven't put up points Seto did in his worst year in their best year. Anyway I would have definitely taken a gamble on him for one season at 750K...

 

Specifically at Wing I wouldn't want this type of signing due to the log jam we already have, but I agree with your point. Look at Toronto last year with Mason Raymond.

Signing a D-man to a contact like this couldn't have hurt as long as its a 1 year deal, and doesn't result in any cap issues.



#1802 Echolalia

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:32 AM

These are the type of low risk, high reward signings that I wish Holland would make more often. I'm not saying that Setoguchi will come back to his '08-'09 form and put up over 60 points, especially with a s***ty Calgary team, but on a good team, I do think he is still capable of chipping in offensively. He's a big body, right handed shot that definitely could have put up 40+ points on this team. I know, I know, we already have an over loaded roster up front, but is there anybody that wouldn't take a gamble on this kid over at least 3 or 4 forwards on our current roster? I definitely would. Our bottom 6 is loaded with guys that haven't put up points Seto did in his worst year in their best year. Anyway I would have definitely taken a gamble on him for one season at 750K...

Would you prefer Setoguchi over Alfredsson?

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:50 AM

I think everyone is missing my point. No I wouldn't have liked if we signed him yesterday, because like myself and everyone after me pointed out, we just don't have the room on our current roster. And no I would not sign him over Alfredsson...

 

My point was that I wish Holland would make some more of these low risk, high reward signings (not necessarily this particular one) later in free agency, rather than striking out on the big fish and then rushing to sign average players to above average contracts.

 

Like kliq mentioned, the Leafs waited until the exact same day last year, September 23rd, to sign Mason Raymond to a one year, one million dollar contract and that turned out to possibly be the steal of the offseason last year. I'm aware that these contracts don't always pan out like teams would like but the point is, they're low risk but they have potential to be high reward. I don't think there is much of a chance that Setoguchi cashes in next year, simply because of the team he signed with, but on the right team, I do think he can still chip in offensively. Just my opinion...



#1804 DickieDunn

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:53 AM

The 3rd line spot is the only real opening the Wings have.  I don't think Setoguchi would be an upgrade over Alfredsson, and there's a real possibility that he'd be a complete flop.  If I was going to take a chance on someone, I'd rather that they take a chance on one of their own rookies instead of a reclamation project.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


#1805 TheXym

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:02 PM

Anybody else see the irony of the pic for the article on his signing at tsn has him prone on the ice?
It's pronounced "Zim" not "Exim". Aw heck with it, just call me Scott.

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:33 PM

I think everyone is missing my point. No I wouldn't have liked if we signed him yesterday, because like myself and everyone after me pointed out, we just don't have the room on our current roster. And no I would not sign him over Alfredsson...

 

My point was that I wish Holland would make some more of these low risk, high reward signings (not necessarily this particular one) later in free agency, rather than striking out on the big fish and then rushing to sign average players to above average contracts.

 

Like kliq mentioned, the Leafs waited until the exact same day last year, September 23rd, to sign Mason Raymond to a one year, one million dollar contract and that turned out to possibly be the steal of the offseason last year. I'm aware that these contracts don't always pan out like teams would like but the point is, they're low risk but they have potential to be high reward. I don't think there is much of a chance that Setoguchi cashes in next year, simply because of the team he signed with, but on the right team, I do think he can still chip in offensively. Just my opinion...

 

Fair enough, and yea I do see what you're saying. Sometimes taking a flyer on guys like that does work, so I agree, sometimes it would be good to see the wings do that from time to time. 


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#1807 DickieDunn

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:52 PM

Holland has done that in the past.  Del Zotto would have been a decent choice over Quincey, for example, but for whatever reason he hasn't wanted to in recent years.  Maybe that's more on Babcock though.


Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


#1808 frankgrimes

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 02:50 PM

Low risk high reward for the flames but man has this guy fallen since his best season.

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 05:10 PM

Holland could've waited (and waited) to re-sign Q until now. He missed out on the big names and pulled the trigger too quick on Q. I also think it would have cost about $1.5M less if he had waited. Even if Q left, he is easily replaced.

 

I still don't get why Morris hasn't signed anywhere. I must be missing something with him...


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 06:20 PM

Holland could've waited (and waited) to re-sign Q until now. He missed out on the big names and pulled the trigger too quick on Q. I also think it would have cost about $1.5M less if he had waited. Even if Q left, he is easily replaced.

 

I still don't get why Morris hasn't signed anywhere. I must be missing something with him...

 

Derek Morris?  I still can't believe that jobber was traded for Chris Drury.  Beginning of the end for the Avalanche.  


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#1811 DickieDunn

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 06:21 PM

Holland could've waited (and waited) to re-sign Q until now. He missed out on the big names and pulled the trigger too quick on Q. I also think it would have cost about $1.5M less if he had waited. Even if Q left, he is easily replaced.
 
I still don't get why Morris hasn't signed anywhere. I must be missing something with him...


Quincey likely would have been signed well before now

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 06:52 PM

Quincey likely would have been signed well before now

 

Yeah, because everyone wants a scrub who's scored 19 points in his last 136 games.    :dozing:


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#1813 kliq

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 01:48 AM

 

Yeah, because everyone wants a scrub who's scored 19 points in his last 136 games.    :dozing:

 

I don't think DickieDunn is saying that everyone would want Quincey, but rather that some team out there would have offered him a contract. I 100% agree with this, maybe not for the term/$$ the Wings offered, but there would have been at least 1 offer nearly 2 months into free agency.



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 11:50 AM

 

Yeah, because everyone wants a scrub who's scored 19 points in his last 136 games.    :dozing:

 

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:19 PM

Someone would have offered him a deal. They would be as wrong as Holland was to do it, but they would have. *sigh*

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 06:44 AM

Damn there goes another guy I would have liked on a cheap contract Sheldon Brookbank signed to a PTO by the Calgary Flames this Calgary team is going to be something else wow http://www.chicagotr...0829-story.html


Edited by frankgrimes, 30 August 2014 - 06:44 AM.

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#1817 DickieDunn

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 08:03 AM

Damn there goes another guy I would have liked on a cheap contract Sheldon Brookbank signed to a PTO by the Calgary Flames this Calgary team is going to be something else wow http://www.chicagotr...0829-story.html


If by so.ething else you mean one of the worst teams in league history, then yes they are.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!






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