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#1 StayClassy

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 01:41 PM

per tsn...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455502

 

Hartnell carries about the same cap hit for slightly longer term( $4.75m for 5 more years, compared to Umberger 4.6 with 3 more years). His game has dropped off a little, but he was still productive last season. Looks like Columbus may have found someone to be captain. 

 

Pretty good return for Columbus for someone they were ready to buy out. 


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#2 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 01:54 PM

Lol, I thought Paul Holmgren wasn't their GM anymore?

 

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 02:08 PM

nice little trade.  Two different types of players...glad to see some teams are looking to change in attempt to get better.... Kenny, you watching? Not saying I wanted either of them, but you have to adapt in this NHL.  We need to tweak....getter tougher on D.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 02:19 PM

Umberger isn't very useful anymore, but Hartnell seems like he would fit in pretty well for Columbus.  Columbus wins this trade by far.



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 02:38 PM

Philly got fleeced!



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 02:43 PM

Don't know if I'd want Hartnell on the books for another 5 seasons.  He's already slow as molasses and with his style of game, he's going to continue to decline at a decent rate.

 

I think it's more fair than people are making it out to be.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 03:10 PM

Don't know if I'd want Hartnell on the books for another 5 seasons.  He's already slow as molasses and with his style of game, he's going to continue to decline at a decent rate.
 
I think it's more fair than people are making it out to be.


Yeah I actually think Philly won here. Maybe not this next year, but after that...

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 04:08 PM

I like this trade a lot for Columbus, Umberger wanted out  and got his wish. Columbus adds a big bodied veteran to a team that plays a heavy and hardworking style.

 

As for the Flyers I wouldn't like that trade if I were a _Flyer fan.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 04:39 PM

It probably suck at the moment from a Flyers fan's POV, but it'll help in the long run when guys like Simmonds, Read, etc need new deals. It seems like it's probably a part of something else, though. I don't imagine Hextall is done just yet.



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:00 PM

Hartnell - 32, 4.75 cap hit, 5 years remaining, 52 pts last season
Umberger - 32, 4.6 cap hit, 3 years remaining, 34 pts last season (4 less games played)

 

Philly also got a 4th round pick

 

CBJ got the immediate upgrade and moved a guy who wanted out. Philly shed a contract that will begin to lose its value in 3 years.



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:51 PM

I can't ever see his name without thinking FARTSMELL. He seems like a really nice guy as far as that goes.. great sense of humor, doesn't take himself too serious.

 

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:55 PM

This is hilarious. These GMs suck eggs these days. Everybody knows this is a win for CBJ.

 

The article basially summarized that:

 

1) Hartnell went to staff and said he wanted "to win"

2) Staff thought about it and asked themselves if they could be a winning team in the future

3) Team decided they are not a winning team and decided to tell Hartnell to leave


Edited by themcityblues, 23 June 2014 - 06:56 PM.


#13 DeGraa55

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:19 PM

I think this was a win win for both sides personally.

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 11:59 PM

Didn't see this coming...


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:17 AM

I would have taken either of these guys for Franzen in a heartbeat! Holland you asleep again? These are the type of guys that we need more off. Big rugged players that will score 20 goals or so per year while being tough to play against.



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:32 AM

I would have taken either of these guys for Franzen in a heartbeat! Holland you asleep again? These are the type of guys that we need more off. Big rugged players that will score 20 goals or so per year while being tough to play against.


If we trade Franzen now and he retires 1 year before his contract is up we'd get hit with a $6 million cap penalty. That's probably why we'll keep our 25 goal scorer instead of trading for one.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 09:19 AM

If we trade Franzen now and he retires 1 year before his contract is up we'd get hit with a $6 million cap penalty. That's probably why we'll keep our 25 goal scorer instead of trading for one.

Same is true the other way. if Hartnell or Umburger retire those teams get hit with the cap penalty. Just that hartenll and umburger bring things to the table that franzen doesn't things like heart, effort, toughness and btw scoring. Franzen brings............................ Both of these guys are younger, healthier, and have shorter contracts. Both would have been good moves for us straight up.



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 10:15 AM

Same is true the other way. if Hartnell or Umburger retire those teams get hit with the cap penalty. Just that hartenll and umburger bring things to the table that franzen doesn't things like heart, effort, toughness and btw scoring. Franzen brings............................ Both of these guys are younger, healthier, and have shorter contracts. Both would have been good moves for us straight up.


Younger, healthier, and have shorter contracts. Meaning they won't retire with term left on these deals. Meaning the recapture penalties aren't there. With Franzen we could be looking at 6 million in cap penalties if he retires early. Which is why he won't be moved. Kenny's not sleeping he just understands the weird concept of the future better than you do.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 10:15 AM

Most lgw members morning routine.

Wake up, have coffee
Complain about franzen (honourable mention of hossa)
Take a shower
Complain about babs/Holland/being too soft
Complain about franzen
Complain more about franzen
Complain even more about franzen....

This is the song that never ends...

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 11:20 AM

Most lgw members morning routine.

Wake up, have coffee
Complain about franzen (honourable mention of hossa)
Take a shower
Complain about babs/Holland/being too soft
Complain about franzen
Complain more about franzen
Complain even more about franzen....

This is the song that never ends...


Na that's the routine of about 3 LGWers who apparently know better than professional hockey minds





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