matt198913 932 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Be nice to have pair with Dekeyser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 I really want us to get Niskanen, he is just what we need right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Luca Sbisa? Isn't he sleeping with the fishes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 I know its way to far fetched but do you think it would be a improvement if wings nabbed up Havlet and Niskanen than let cleary walk and sign alfie for a cheaper rate? Z Dats Havlet Franzen Weiss Alfie Goose Helm Tats Abby Glending Miller Kronwall Niskanen DD Smith Kindl Big E Lashoff Howie Gus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 No thanks on Havlat, he hasn't been the same since Kronwall nearly killed him. 2 WingsAlways and wings4thecup06 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 you left out Sheahan... .. And Jurco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shinzaki 72 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Yeah...sign me up to put Havlat on the top line and Sheahan in the Twilight Zone... Edited June 28, 2014 by Shinzaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 you left out Sheahan... .. And Jurco Who needs Sheahan and Jurco when you have Havlat? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Anyone hear anything new on Niskanen? I know he met with teams like Minnesota. If he goes there I'm going to go postal. 1 wings4thecup06 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Anyone hear anything new on Niskanen? I know he met with teams like Minnesota. If he goes there I'm going to go postal. Sorry for slightly OT but Postal 2 has been one of the best games ever made. If he goes there their defense will be damn scary. 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Sorry for slightly OT but Postal 2 has been one of the best games ever made. If he goes there their defense will be damn scary. I know they are going hard after Vanek too. Not sure if they have the Cap for both or not. Niskanen is a Minnesota native which scares me. Apparently they are meeting with him tomorrow because Niskanen is getting married today. Edited June 28, 2014 by Datsyukian-Deke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Overpay and get him. The cap era has screwed over the players in every way except during unrestricted free agency. We're not going to fill the gap on defense by any other means so let's pony up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arag 308 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) In reality there is no such a thing as the Right D man for the Right price. No need to say that regardless of the position played, every UFA is being overpaid. Overpaying for the premiere D man is perfectly fine. And one more thing. Don't we, the loyal fans pay for some, if not the most of their salaries ? We want some results. I think we all have been patient enough waiting for our team to get what it needs to be competitive and be an elite team. I think we deserve that. Go Wings and get this guy already. Edited June 28, 2014 by arag 1 WingsAlways reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonSin 192 Report post Posted June 28, 2014 Just our luck he's from Minnesota and he'll probably go there. I honestly look at it through my eyes and if I was a player and had a chance to play for my hometown I would do it in a heartbeat. Especially a place like Minnesota where they're hockey crazy and they're starting to come together as a contender. I guess if we lose out on Niskanen we shouldn't go after Minnesota born players anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Do you guys think Minny has enough to sign Niskanen and Vanek? They have 9 forwards signed, 6 defensemen, and 2 goalies. They have roughly 19 mill in cap space so roughly need to sign 5 players or so. Hopefully they only go for Vanek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I understand the concern to a point, but Niskanen wasn't a Cheechoo. He was a very good defenseman for years, who has been improving each year, and had a breakout season. It's not like he came out of nowhere. He is the age where defensemen usually break out. If there was any player and age to take a risk, it's Niskanen. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2 I think if anything he was just put in a position to excel. Bylsma seemed to understand his strengths and limitations and play him accordingly. Put him on your second pairing, give the toughest assignments to your first pairing, and let him run the first unit PP. I fear we end up overpaying Sami Salo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I understand the concern to a point, but Niskanen wasn't a Cheechoo. He was a very good defenseman for years, who has been improving each year, and had a breakout season. It's not like he came out of nowhere. He is the age where defensemen usually break out. If there was any player and age to take a risk, it's Niskanen. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2 I think if anything he was just put in a position to excel. Bylsma seemed to understand his strengths and limitations and play him accordingly. Put him on your second pairing, give the toughest assignments to your first pairing, and let him run the first unit PP. I fear we end up overpaying Sami Salo. That's exactly how we would use him, too, so... Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted June 29, 2014 Nobody seemed to mind the hometown advantage when we got DeKeyser Obviously the Wings will have to overpay. If Holland makes a solid offer and he still picks Minnesota or another team, not much you can do. Location, location, location. I don't think Minnesota is really considered a contender just yet. They are a playoff team, but that's about it. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I agree...as much as I bash on Holland, as long as he is making competitive offers, I guess I am ok with it. I can blame Holland though for slowly turning this into a destination that top UFA's avoid...then again, I also blame the city leaders for the cesspool...hell, even I left the area after 42 years of watching it get worse and worse... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I think if anything he was just put in a position to excel. Bylsma seemed to understand his strengths and limitations and play him accordingly. Put him on your second pairing, give the toughest assignments to your first pairing, and let him run the first unit PP. I fear we end up overpaying Sami Salo. I think the Wings could afford to do the same with Niskanen too, even though he is going to get paid like a first pairing d-man. DeKeyser seems like an ideal complement to Niskanen as a defense partner and that would really solidify the Wings top four on defense, assuming Babs still intends on utilizing Kronner and E as the shutdown pair. Then Kronner/Niskanen on the points of the first PP unit. I honestly wasn't a huge fan of signing Niskanen going into free agency, but I'm pretty much aboard now and have come to grips it's probably going to fall in the necessary overpayment category should it occur. I want to win now because Pavel and Z are still here, yet also continue the transition into building for the future as well. Niskanen gives the Wings the opportunity to accomplish both of those goals. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I really don't want this guy for more than 5.5/year. It would be a nightmare if he had his one solid year, and turned into Ian White. At the same time, we need to upgrade, and pickings are (and likely always will be) slim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I've heard from a non quotable source, which is (very) close to Holland, apparently niskanen really wants to come here and we are very high on his list. Also we won't get yandle, price is all of nyquist, Tatar, jurco and mantha + first. Holland is probably going to give him 7 years $42 million. Just a heads up. Niskanen that is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I've heard from a non quotable source, which is (very) close to Holland, apparently niskanen really wants to come here and we are very high on his list. Also we won't get yandle, price is all of nyquist, Tatar, jurco and mantha + first. Holland is probably going to give him 7 years $42 million. Just a heads up. Niskanen that is If this comes true it would be a very pleasant surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 If this comes true it would be a very pleasant surprise. Yep, he is apparently aggressively trying for 2 puck moving dmen (Myers or Boyle being the second), and a top six forward which he's currently really trying for iginla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 I've heard from a non quotable source, which is (very) close to Holland, apparently niskanen really wants to come here and we are very high on his list. Also we won't get yandle, price is all of nyquist, Tatar, jurco and mantha + first. Holland is probably going to give him 7 years $42 million. Just a heads up. Niskanen that is I don't get to watch a lot of non red wings, is Yandle that good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
