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Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

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I'm a guy that mentioned Niskanen months ago but honestly the more I think about a 7 year deal the more I think it could backfire. What if he just a good year and doesn't end up being what we thought and we're stuck with this guy and a big contract. If the Wings sign him I hope it's not over 5 mil per. 5 year/25 million would be a great contract but that's not going to cut it.

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I'm a guy that mentioned Niskanen months ago but honestly the more I think about a 7 year deal the more I think it could backfire. What if he just a good year and doesn't end up being what we thought and we're stuck with this guy and a big contract. If the Wings sign him I hope it's not over 5 mil per. 5 year/25 million would be a great contract but that's not going to cut it.

this is why i would rather go with ehrhoff. might not be a righty and a few years older, but you know what you're going to get with him. niskanen has had one good season

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I'm a guy that mentioned Niskanen months ago but honestly the more I think about a 7 year deal the more I think it could backfire. What if he just a good year and doesn't end up being what we thought and we're stuck with this guy and a big contract. If the Wings sign him I hope it's not over 5 mil per. 5 year/25 million would be a great contract but that's not going to cut it.

With EVERY CONTRACT, there are always risks. ...and yes while 5/25 would be much easier to swallow, as you said: "that's not going to cut it."

So either Kenny steps up, makes his best offer... or he doesn't.

EDIT: I'm glad that there are more options than just Niskanen. So if KH does step up and make an offer and someone beats us out for his services it won't be the end of the world.

(see: not landing Suter)

Edited by e_prime

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With EVERY CONTRACT, there are always risks. ...and yes while 5/25 would be much easier to swallow, as you said: "that's not going to cut it."

So either Kenny steps up, makes his best offer... or he doesn't.

EDIT: I'm glad that there are more options than just Niskanen. So if KH does step up and make an offer and someone beats us out for his services it won't be the end of the world.

(see: not landing Suter)

I don't fully agree there are ALWAYS risks. Yes, there are risks of injury but most of the time you pretty much know what you're getting. If we were sitting here talking about Keith, Weber, Karlsson etc we'd have absolutely NO problem doing what it takes to get either of those players here. But we're talking about a guy that had ONE good season and a mediocre one at that.

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Their options opened over the weekend, but the priority when NHL free agency kicks off Tuesday remains Dan Boyle. General manager Ken Holland spoke to both Boyle's camp and that of the premier defensemen who will be available, Matt Niskanen, during the weekend draft in Philadelphia, but the Wings aren't likely to be bidders for Niskanen because of what he'll command.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140630/SPORTS05/306300131/detroit-red-wings-christian-ehrhoff

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How is it that Holland seems totally against overpaying for Niskanen but doesn't seem bothered at all by the idea of overpaying for Boyle?

Is that a serious question?!?!? Boyle is over the age of 35!!!!

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Sweet, as long as they keep the salary down I have no problem signing a good player in his prime to a long deal. Seven years should keep his cap hit well south of 6 million too.

That would be the case if the contract were to take him into his older years, but he would only be 34 at contract's end. I do think 6 million is more than fair, as that cap hit is not a big deal 2 years from now.

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How about forget Niskanen and go after Erhoff AND Boyle... Throw Erhoff 4 million per and Boyle 3 million and call it a day. Simple as that...LoL.

I am not sure if you are kidding. Boyle wants 2 years $5.5 per, and ehrhoff will probably be asking at least that

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Interesting tidbit from Chuck Pleiness:

Chuck Pleiness ‏@wingsfrontman 5m

@DavidEnglander @WingsRiders @4thLinePlugger Boyle is No. 1. And if they can fit Ehrhoff in as well they will as well.

So much for the kids are alright, if that is truly the Wings strategy. But I wouldn't complain if we landed em both.

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Interesting tidbit from Chuck Pleiness:

Chuck Pleiness ‏@wingsfrontman 5m

@DavidEnglander @WingsRiders @4thLinePlugger Boyle is No. 1. And if they can fit Ehrhoff in as well they will as well.

So much for the kids are alright, if that is truly the Wings strategy. But I wouldn't complain if we landed em both.

Kronwall - Boyle

Ehrhoff - Ericsson

Smith - DeKeyser

^ our D would actually look legit for once

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Interesting tidbit from Chuck Pleiness:

Chuck Pleiness ‏@wingsfrontman 5m

@DavidEnglander @WingsRiders @4thLinePlugger Boyle is No. 1. And if they can fit Ehrhoff in as well they will as well.

So much for the kids are alright, if that is truly the Wings strategy. But I wouldn't complain if we landed em both.

ehrhoff should be higher priority than boyle IMO, but i understand the need for a righty, not too sure why they circled back to boyle after holland said he was asking too much

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How is it that Holland seems totally against overpaying for Niskanen but doesn't seem bothered at all by the idea of overpaying for Boyle?

Honestly? Term.

I would rather overpay Niskanen than Boyle on a two-year term - most people would. Niskanen's looking for his pay day, though... and maybe the team isn't sold on him being a 6-7 million dollar guy for 7 years.

In all seriousness, would you be comfortable having Niskanen locked up at that price tag and term? Especially since Kronwall and Ericsson are locked up for 5 and 6 years, respectively? Factor in all the kids coming through the pipeline. I think a lot of people would be happy for 2-3 seasons, then be looking for management to begin scrambling to unload one of those deals.

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Interesting tidbit from Chuck Pleiness:

Chuck Pleiness ‏@wingsfrontman 5m

@DavidEnglander @WingsRiders @4thLinePlugger Boyle is No. 1. And if they can fit Ehrhoff in as well they will as well.

So much for the kids are alright, if that is truly the Wings strategy. But I wouldn't complain if we landed em both.

The kids are allright, but lets not kid ourselves...Ehrhoff and Boyle are better.

I just hope Boyle doesn't get more than 2 years. Ehrhoff I don't care what the term is.

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I am not sure if you are kidding. Boyle wants 2 years $5.5 per, and ehrhoff will probably be asking at least that

I was kidding. But honestly I wouldn't want Boyle at 5.5, I think that's way too much for him at this point in his career. And maybe that's just a rumor he's demanding that much. I don't believe rumors anymore.

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Interesting tidbit from Chuck Pleiness:

Chuck Pleiness ‏@wingsfrontman 5m

@DavidEnglander @WingsRiders @4thLinePlugger Boyle is No. 1. And if they can fit Ehrhoff in as well they will as well.

So much for the kids are alright, if that is truly the Wings strategy. But I wouldn't complain if we landed em both.

Why would the priority be Boyle over Ehrhoff? That doesn't make any sense to me. Getting a righty at the expense of pursuing a better player is a pretty questionable strategy. I am fine with getting both, but not sure how feasible that actually is unless they move Kindl soon. Edited by GoWings1905

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Why would the priority be Boyle over Ehrhoff? That doesn't make any sense to me. Getting a righty at the expense of pursuing a better player is a pretty questionable strategy. I am fine with getting both, but not sure how feasible that actually is unless they move Kindl soon.

I'd imagine the plan if they got both, would be to package Kindl+Andersson for picks. Dump enough salary to sign the RFA's and still be comfortably under for Iggy/Alfie.

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