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#341 SwedeLundin77

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 12:33 AM

The most interesting thing in the article to me is that the source says the Wings believe they are TWO defensemen away from being an exceptional team. So it's not sounding so crazy that we could land BOTH Niskanen and Boyle.

 

Yeah, I don't mind Boyle as much as others, but I think I might like the idea of Niskanen and Stralman better...  but that would end up screwing our youth just a tad unless we move someone in the near future...



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 12:37 AM

 
Yeah, I don't mind Boyle as much as others, but I think I might like the idea of Niskanen and Stralman better...  but that would end up screwing our youth just a tad unless we move someone in the near future...


I prefer Boyle and Niskanen for that reason. Boyle can be gone in two years and make room for whoever excels most out of our defensive prospects. I know a lot of people on here think all of them are going to turn into NHL defensemen but the reality is we will be lucky to get one great one out of the bunch. That gives us Niskanen at least long term.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:59 AM

I prefer Boyle and Niskanen for that reason. Boyle can be gone in two years and make room for whoever excels most out of our defensive prospects. I know a lot of people on here think all of them are going to turn into NHL defensemen but the reality is we will be lucky to get one great one out of the bunch. That gives us Niskanen at least long term.

 

Yeah it seems like Sproul will step in soon and excel.. He seems to be the best candidate.  Ouellet sounds like he'd be a PK specialist.  Marchenko seems like he could be a solid defensive defensemen.  Sounds like Backman is another DeKeyser with slightly better offensive ability.  

 

In the end though, from what I read on redwingscentral.com is that Sproul is the real deal and will really excel at the NHL level.  Can't wait!



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 02:58 AM

I want a guy who's intelligent.  That would be stupidity to get free agency at 27 and sign a short term deal.  It's not like he's a bum who came out of no where.  He's had a few solid seasons and put together a great year.  Not unheard of for a guy who's 27.  Defenseman usually take longer to mature.

if he signs a short term deal and continues to improve, top 4 money suddenly turns into #1/#2 money...

And if he falls off a bit, they'll still be a lot of teams that will push hard for him just because he has the ability.(he needs a change of scenery, he didn't fit the scheme etc)
And he'd still be under 30,

Like i said
I KNOW it won't happen.

Had I said, "I DOUBT it will happen." it would've implied that I thought there was a chance.

It was more of a, "hey, I'd respect the hell out of a kid who did this even though I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND that it never will happen."

Kind of Like I said to begin with, ya know?

Edited by jimmyemeryhunter, 01 July 2014 - 03:29 AM.


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 06:15 AM

if he signs a short term deal and continues to improve, top 4 money suddenly turns into #1/#2 money...

And if he falls off a bit, they'll still be a lot of teams that will push hard for him just because he has the ability.(he needs a change of scenery, he didn't fit the scheme etc)
And he'd still be under 30,

Like i said
I KNOW it won't happen.

Had I said, "I DOUBT it will happen." it would've implied that I thought there was a chance.

It was more of a, "hey, I'd respect the hell out of a kid who did this even though I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND that it never will happen."

Kind of Like I said to begin with, ya know?

So what's your point?  You put out a scenario, I disagreed with it.  That's the nature of how message boards work.  If you don't want it discussed, why post it?



#346 jimmyemeryhunter

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:26 AM

So what's your point?  You put out a scenario, I disagreed with it.  That's the nature of how message boards work.   you don't want it discussed, why post it?

Well sir, I guess I have a few points.
One being that just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't mean its "stupidity."

The point behind what I was saying to begin with is with all these reports "were willing to overpay for him, and he's definitely getting seven years," etc. I would have liked for him to show some form of confidence in who he is as a player before I, personally, would feel more favorably with a commitment that long.

And by all means, discuss, that I have no quarrels with.
I was just trying to point out that we didn't actually disagree,.
I said an entirely impossible scenario that would make me feel better in regards to signing an (almost?former) penguin, and you effectively just called it stupid.

Which.
I'll give you is argumentative, but not really disagreeing.
Unless youre saying it wouldnt make you like the kid more if he signed a shorter term deal with the wings.

Edited by jimmyemeryhunter, 01 July 2014 - 07:34 AM.


#347 Nightfall

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:02 AM

Niskanen is going to sign somewhere for $7 million a season.  Count on it.


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:06 AM

Niskanen is going to sign somewhere for $7 million a season.  Count on it.

It's certainly possible.

 

I'm thinking the chances of us getting Boyle seems more realistic.

 

Then there's waiver players such as Gleason - Volchenkov - O'Brien, and now Del Zotto will be a UFA.



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#349 TheXym

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:12 AM

What if KH offers 7 years, $6.75 mil, limited NTC to open? I think he'd consider it
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:15 AM

What if KH offers 7 years, $6.75 mil, limited NTC to open? I think he'd consider it

I'm certain he would - however what makes Detroit a better option than others?

 

Honestly - I have no clue as to the other teams that are making a bid for Niskanen.



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:17 AM

Boyle goes to Tampa. Niskanen to Detroit. That is what is going to happen. It is going to be awesome.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:20 AM

What if Holland shocks us all, and swings a trade with Montreal for Josh Gorges?



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:20 AM

I'm certain he would - however what makes Detroit a better option than others?
 
Honestly - I have no clue as to the other teams that are making a bid for Niskanen.


His personality seems to be more of the play second pairing, QB the PP rather than be the #1 all the time. Kronner and Smith together last year worked well, IMHO. Pair Niskanen with Danny DeKeyser and have him run the PP with Kronwall and I think it's a situation that fits his mind and skillsets. Ericsson with Marchenko or Sproul or Oulette for the third pair, Lashoff as a cheap 7th.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 03:58 PM

Anxious moment on NHL network. They will announce destination for Niskanen after the comercial.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 03:58 PM

Seven years, $40.25M for Niskanen in WSH. $5.75M AAV.



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 04:02 PM

tsn shows it different

 

Jul 1 Niskanen, Matt D Pittsburgh Washington $42.5M 7 $6.071428M

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 04:02 PM

WTF. And we get nothing.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 04:03 PM

Not surprised.

 

Seems as though Detroit is officially not the place UFA's wish to go.



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 04:04 PM

Not surprised.

 

Seems as though Detroit is officially not the place UFA's wish to go.

 

were almost as bad as the islanders in that respect



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 04:09 PM

Well.....

 

I say have #5 & #6 Dmen rotation.....

 

Use kids from GR.....

 

Everyone seems to think there's real potential - so what the hell - lets use them, and whatever happens - happens.



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