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#21 darkmanx

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:44 AM

Nothing new really but I hope Holland is still in.

 

 

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Teams like Detroit, Dallas, Colorado & Anaheim inquired about Ehrhoff prior to the trade deadline. I'm sure all 4 and more will inquire now


#22 gcom007

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:44 AM

that is a solid D! If Holland did just that, I may forgive him for Hossa...we have the money, not including the Kindl salary dump...


I'd be surprised if it happened, but that'd go a long ways towards shutting me up about Holland. One solid veteran that can easily take a top 4 spot would be big though. We don't have to have a star if we could just have a solid three line punch and stop having to rely so much on guys like Kindl and Lashoff.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:49 AM

I wonder if Holland can land both of them

 

Kronwall Erhoff

NIskanen Dekeyser

Smith Ericsson

 

 

Totally not needed though IMO. They'll both want long contracts - 5yrs min I reckon, which means it'll block one of our young D men coming up right now - because sod's law we won't be able to move Kindl and his ugly contract. 

 

The best news here is that prices just dropped. We might be able to get Niskanen for closer to 4.5-5. If we still choose to go that route.

 

This was my first thought too - this is totally excellent news for the D man market and for us! And even if Ehrhoff doesn't want to come to Detroit, it'll give us some bargaining power over Niskanen.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:59 AM

I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career.

 

Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5.

 

Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years.

 

Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option.



#25 Dominator2005

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:07 AM

I don't see how we can compare stats from the last year and based on them conclude that Niskanen is better player. Niskanen had a carrer year playing on a high scoring team like Pens and Ehrhoff was a part of a s***ty team...
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:07 AM

*hoping his wife isn't from Minnesota*



#27 darkmanx

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:12 AM

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m
FLA puts Jovanovski on buyout waivers

 

 

Uh oh, please no Kenny!



#28 Datsyukian-Deke

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:12 AM

I can live without picking up a top 6 forward this off season if Holland can make Erhoff and Niskanen happen. You can take a defensive core that's in shambles and completely solidify it in one off season.

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:13 AM

*hoping his wife isn't from Minnesota*

According to her facebook she is very German :)



#30 Datsyukian-Deke

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:15 AM

According to her facebook she is very German :)


German-Minnesotian?

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:25 AM

Maybe Kenny can take her to Frankenmuth. 

 

Still rather have Niskanen due to age and RH shot, but it's nice that there's a really good consolation prize out there if the Wings miss out.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:35 AM

I wont lie I wanted Christian Ehrhoff at the deadline but its so hard because niskanen has been on my list too its nice to possibly fight over two talent defensemen and it will be worth it in the end if we snag at least one of them  i like our forward core but i wouldn't mind iglina if the price is right


Edited by sjr2012, 29 June 2014 - 11:36 AM.

try to get something by me i dare you

 

 

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#33 Datsyukian-Deke

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:38 AM

Question...if they are going to buy him out are they going to put him through waivers first? I'm not sure of his contract situation and if someone would pick him up before we even got a shot at him?

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 11:49 AM

 

No, they just don't like Germans. Especially left-handed ones.

 

Holland won't sign another German after Krupp.  


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:10 PM

Still got my ehrhoff avi up from like 3 yrs ago

 

GET IT DONE KENNY


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#36 PavelValerievichDatsyuk

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:16 PM

I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career.

 

Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5.

 

Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years.

 

Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option.

1st of all - you clearly ignore Erhoff's 2 years in Vancouver where he scored 44 and 50 points. He got 38 this year on a very bad Sabres team. 

 

2nd - are we really considering 32 too old? Niskanen also turns older this year (who would have thought?) so they're only 4 years apart. We don't even know how long we would sign them for. Erhoff clearly has the more proven track record.

 

Niskanen's Right handedness is attractive. If we signed Erhoff we'd be counting on Marchenko or Sproul to be our RH Dman.

 

This is getting exciting! Wonder if any other unexpected buyouts happen.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:16 PM

I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career.

 

Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5.

 

Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years.

 

Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option.

erhoff is more proven than niskanen. even at his age, he has a good 5 years of good productivity left. But if anything, erhoff being put on the market should lower the cost of obtaining a top 4 dman

 

Question...if they are going to buy him out are they going to put him through waivers first? I'm not sure of his contract situation and if someone would pick him up before we even got a shot at him?

not sure how the waiver rules work but according to tsn he is now an unrestricted free agent



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:17 PM

I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career.

 

Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5.

 

Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years.

 

Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option.

 

The bottom line is we need a defensman who can get the puck out of our zone efficiently, has some offensive ability, and can run a powerplay.  Erhoff is getting older (although I wouldn't say 32 is old these days), but he still provides the offense abilities that the Wings sorely lack.  Niskanen does also, and he's younger, but he's also unproven, so I guess the question comes down to what you think the lower risk is: signing a long contract to someone who only had one successful year but younger, or signing a long contract to a proven commodity who is older.  Frankly I want both of them.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:20 PM

 

The bottom line is we need a defensman who can get the puck out of our zone efficiently, has some offensive ability, and can run a powerplay.  Erhoff is getting older (although I wouldn't say 32 is old these days), but he still provides the offense abilities that the Wings sorely lack.  Niskanen does also, and he's younger, but he's also unproven, so I guess the question comes down to what you think the lower risk is: signing a long contract to someone who only had one successful year but younger, or signing a long contract to a proven commodity who is older.  Frankly I want both of them.

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:22 PM

i have a better chance of winning the lottery than the wings getting both niskanen and erhoff







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