Myers close to become a wing?

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Weiss isnt going anywhere. He has a NMC and with that cap hit he would be impossible to move even without his no movement clause, you think he would accept a trade to buffalo?

If he doesn't end up playing here at all, yes, I do.

Unless he plans to retire I don't think he's going to be content with sitting for the remainder of his contract.

And we could retain up to 50% of his salary, so the cap hit could be relatively decent for his potential.

Weiss isnt going anywhere. He has a NMC and with that cap hit he would be impossible to move even without his no movement clause, you think he would accept a trade to buffalo?

If he doesn't end up playing here at all, yes, I do.

Unless he plans to retire I don't think he's going to be content with sitting for the remainder of his contract.

And we could retain up to 50% of his salary, so the cap hit could be relatively decent for his potential.

[WingsallTheway 383]

Buffalo is in a rebuild. The last guy theyre going to want from our roster is weiss. The only place we could maybe trade him to is somewhere like ottawa who is weak at the center position and looking to win sooner rather than later

It also doesn't make sense for them to move myers... I think theyre overvaluing what he could bring back so they wanted to field offers but won't like what they get. Theres a high chance he doesnt go anywhere. The guy is the same age as Smith theres tons of room for him to improve in a rebuild

Edited November 2, 2014 by WingsallTheway

[frankgrimes 1,836]

I said it before and I'll say it again, Myers is still growing into his body (hasn't filled out his massive frame yet) and I'm sure he will become much better as he ages. Is it a bit of a risk sure ? But I would do Jurco forMyers easily.

The Sabrers maybe overvaluing him but the fact is, they don't have to trade Myers...Buffalo won't be even close to the cap for some time so Murray knows this if others want Myers they gotta pay a good price.

Edited November 5, 2014 by frankgrimes

[krsmith17 7,191]

I said it before and I'll say it again, giving up on Jurco would be a HUGE mistake, especially for a guy like Myers.

Our biggest need right now is top 6 scoring wingers with size. Jurco will be exactly that in a year or two from now and you want to trade him away for a project defenseman?

Jurco has an unbelievable skill set, great hands, great skater, decent shot, has good size and hits. He's still very young, he will be great in a few years.

[number9 3,297]

I said it before and I'll say it again, Myers is still growing into his body (hasn't filled out his massive frame yet) and I'm sure he will become much better as he ages. Is it a bit of a risk sure ? But I would do Jurco forMyers easily.

The Sabrers maybe overvaluing him but the fact is, they don't have to trade Myers...Buffalo won't be even close to the cap for some time so Murray knows this if others want Myers they gotta pay a good price.

Myers sucks though

[arag 308]

Anyone other than # 13, 14, 40, 55, and 65 can and should be traded for Myers. This team desperately needs a right handed D who can shoot the puck. Our D is horrible with shot accuracy. No one has a accurate shot. No one can stand up to Chara likes. Myers plays well when he is on his game.

Edited November 6, 2014 by arag

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Anyone other than # 13, 14, 40, 55, and 65 can and should be traded for Myers. This team desperately needs a right handed D who can shoot the puck. Our D us horrible with shoot accuracy. No one has a accurate shoot. No one can stand up to Chara likes. Myers plays well when he is on his game.

Yup, contenders are built from the nt out the Duo of monster/Howard is good but the defense save for Kronwall (who shouldn't be the pp qb), DeKeyser and Smith so far is not up to the task. Even if big E gets his game together, the top pairing still won't be as good as Wings fans are used to...so a gamble for a guy who isn't even in his prime yet might be worth it.

[Euro_Twins 4,476]

Yup, contenders are built from the nt out the Duo of monster/Howard is good but the defense save for Kronwall (who shouldn't be the pp qb), DeKeyser and Smith so far is not up to the task. Even if big E gets his game together, the top pairing still won't be as good as Wings fans are used to...so a gamble for a guy who isn't even in his prime yet might be worth it.

Why shouldn't kronner be the pp qb? Yes the only one good at it...

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Yup, contenders are built from the nt out the Duo of monster/Howard is good but the defense save for Kronwall (who shouldn't be the pp qb), DeKeyser and Smith so far is not up to the task. Even if big E gets his game together, the top pairing still won't be as good as Wings fans are used to...so a gamble for a guy who isn't even in his prime yet might be worth it.

Why shouldn't kronner be the pp qb? Yes the only one good at it...

I would prefer him in a shut down position again.

[joesuffP 1,746]

Our biggest need is defense. Stop looking at GAA and Goals for per game. There is a huge hole on defense that translates to inconsistency in all areas. Obviously a top 6 winger would help but it's nothing compared to the boost a top 4 offensive defensemen would bring to this team.

Edited November 7, 2014 by joesuffP

[e_prime 1,936]

Our biggest need is defense. Stop looking at GAA and Goals for per game. There is a huge hole on defense that translates to inconsistency in all areas. Obviously a top 6 winger would help but it's nothing compared to the boost a top 4 offensive defensemen would bring to this team.

...BUT I WANNNTTTT BOOOTTHHHHHH!!!

[joesuffP 1,746]

wingers will be easy pickings at the deadline

[Euro_Twins 4,476]

wingers will be easy pickings at the deadline

What kind of tires play wing?

[WingsallTheway 383]

What kind of tires play wing?

Heatley is past his prime and an ex 50 goal scorer...Holland has that on lockdown

[joesuffP 1,746]

I'm thinking we'll have to wait until the deadline for any moves. We need another Kronwall type d man, good on both ends of the ice but, we also need a scoring winger. That would make us a team that can compete. In a perfect world I see us making big moves at the deadline and signing Alfie for league minimum

[frankgrimes 1,836]

I'm thinking we'll have to wait until the deadline for any moves. We need another Kronwall type d man, good on both ends of the ice but, we also need a scoring winger. That would make us a team that can compete. In a perfect world I see us making big moves at the deadline and signing Alfie for league minimum

Compete for what? Playoffs, yeah but Lord Stanley no chance. Non of the available players would put the Wings in cup contention.

I think the big fish will be O Reilly but he would cost a lot

[Dabura 12,207]

Wings Continue To Show Interest In Tyler Myers [Kukla]

Like I said there in the comments section (I'm Dont Toews Me Bro), I think Myers needs a change of scenery. Everyone bags on him, but he's a 24-year-old defenseman averaging just shy of 25 minutes of ice time for what might prove to be the worst team in modern NHL history. His confidence is probably shot, he's probably picking up bad habits - being a Sabre can't be good for his development. I think if you put him on a good team, he'll flourish. Victor Hedman is the comparable, IMHO. Would I like a Victor Hedman? Yes, yes I would.

My only two untouchables in this discussion are Nyquist and Mantha. If the asking price is Tatar and a 1st, I seriously consider pulling that trigger.

Edited November 13, 2014 by Dabura

[Euro_Twins 4,476]

Wings Continue To Show Interest In Tyler Myers [Kukla]

Like I said there in the comments section (I'm Dont Toews Me Bro), I think Myers needs a change of scenery. Everyone bags on him, but he's a 24-year-old defensemen averaging just shy of 25 minutes of ice time for what might prove to be the worst team in modern NHL history. His confidence is probably shot, he's probably picking up bad habits - being a Sabre can't be good for his development. I think if you put him on a good team, he'll flourish. Victor Hedman is the comparable, IMHO. Would I like a Victor Hedman? Yes, yes I would.

My only two untouchables in this discussion are Nyquist and Mantha. If the asking price is Tatar and a 1st, I seriously consider pulling that trigger.

Larkin? Cause they asked for Larkin + kindl + 3rd round pick. Holland said no.

[krsmith17 7,191]

I don't necessarily want Myers but I'm also not one of the ones that are saying "stay far away". I do agree with you that he may flourish in a new system and I think he could be a decent fit in Detroit. Also, his right handed shot would be huge on the power-play. He's not my number one choice but he is a decent option. If it were Tatar and a first for Myers, like you said, you would have to consider it, and me personally, I would probably pull the trigger on that. However, if it were any of Nyquist, Mantha, Jurco, Sproul, Larkin and a first, I would have to say no.

Edited November 13, 2014 by krsmith17

[Euro_Twins 4,476]

I don't necessarily want Myers but I'm also not one of the ones that are saying "stay far away". I do agree with you that he may flourish in a new system and I think he could be a decent fit in Detroit. Also, his right handed shot would be huge on the power-play. He's not my number one choice but he is a decent option. If it were Tatar and a first for Myers, like you said, you would have to consider it, and me personally, I would probably pull the trigger on that. However, if it were any of Nyquist, Mantha, Jurco, Sproul, Larkin and a first, I would have to say no.

Very deep draft this year though. Unless it's next year's first it could hurt us long term. Tatar kindl and a second, I would pull the trigger

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Larkin? Cause they asked for Larkin + kindl + 3rd round pick. Holland said no.

Curious where you heard a 3rd round pick mentioned...

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Larkin? Cause they asked for Larkin + kindl + 3rd round pick. Holland said no.

Everything I seen said first round pick this year.

Which seemed to be the only constant.

I wouldn't give up this years first, but maybe a third this year and a conditional 1st/2nd next year.

And were gonna wanna on to Larkin, I have that feeling about him,not to mention he looks damn good at UofM.

[PumpkinEscobar 136]

I may be mistaken but we don't have a 3rd

[Euro_Twins 4,476]

Curious where you heard a 3rd round pick mentioned...

Could have been wrong about the third.

[Dabura 12,207]

To me, Myers is a young cornerstone defenseman. Which is exactly what we're looking for. Big, mobile, skilled, can move the puck, logs big minutes, goes up against the opposition's best players, plays in all situations, can run a power play, can bomb it from the point, can score goals and put up points, has incredible upside and potential...the kid is a stud. Has he been struggling? Yes, but that works for us, because it gives us an actual shot at acquiring him - and for less than he's probably really worth. And there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that if you make him a Red Wing and pair him with Kronwall, he's going to flourish and eventually become our undisputed #1 defenseman. And even if he doesn't quite reach those heights, he's still going to be one of our better defensemen. (Recall how bad Ericsson was and consider how far he's come as a Wing. Now consider the fact that Myers is way better than Ericsson was at 24 and has much greater potential than Ericsson's ever had.) All this for, like, Larkin and a pick? Are you kidding me? That's an absolute no-brainer in my book. I'd almost worry that the league wouldn't approve it. My impression was Murray wanted three or four key pieces, but it's sounding more and more to me like [Holland insists the price is way too high, Helene confirms the price is so high you'd have to be crazy to even consider it, and then Montreal gets him for a couple prospects].

We're talking about our first-round pick in next year's draft and how moving it could hurt us in the long run - but, to me, this is the kind of player we'd be hoping to draft with that pick, and this one's old enough and experienced enough that he can make a difference while Datsyuk is still around. We talk about the promise of Jurco and our D prospects - but it's unlikely any of them become as valuable as Myers could (and, I believe, would) be for us. And if we do move Tatar or Jurco, having Myers means we can afford to part with a non-Kindl roster defenseman (Smith/Quincey/Ericsson) and/or two or three or even four D prospects, which means we could go out and get a good top-six winger. If Dallas's D woes continue, maybe Nill considers moving Nichushkin for two or three of Smith/Kindl/Lashoff/Quincey/Ericsson/Ouellet/Marchenko/Sproul/Jensen/Backman/Hicketts? Maybe we'd have a shot at Ryan O'Reilly?