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#161 arag

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:51 PM

I hope what Holand is doing is not the same as destroying a great team. Very disappointed.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:54 PM

Ouch,f****** ouch...

 

It's a nightmare when you consider all the UFA talent this offseason.  And KFQ comes back? Rofl!

 

Honestly though he did have a decent/good second half.



#163 RedFlag85

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:56 PM

Kiss Babs goodbye. Who would want to stay now?

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:56 PM

 

 

 

It's not like Holland hasn't tried to get help on the blueline. We were spurned by several guys this offseason and the Suter situation is well documented. We have 5 guys in the AHL who could all play in the NHL in the next two years, granted they won't all play for us. It takes time to "give the team a new identity." You can't do that over night in the salary cap era unless you get a guy like Crosby in the draft. The identity is starting to change with Goose, Tats, Sheahan, Jurco all coming up. I'd be surprised if we didn't end up seeing one of the young Dmen play at least 35-40 games this season. The change is happening, but it just isn't going to happen overnight. 

 

How many players have to pass on Detroit, how many times do we have to be "in the mix" and end up empty handed? Trying isn't good enough anymore. When you miss out on one big name ufa, that's one thing, then a couple years later, not having fixed the problem via trade or free agency, instead using useless plugs a la Quincey, you miss out on a whole lot of big time upgrades? disgraceful, unacceptable... #fireholland



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:57 PM

This is so sad ... Would of been way better off giving the spot to a kid ... We'd better get rid of kindl

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:58 PM

You got to bef****** kidding me
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:59 PM

Hey. It's not the best signing I've ever seen, but it's not Cleary or Samuelson!! Knock on wood.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:00 PM

This is so sad ... Would of been way better off giving the spot to a kid ... We'd better get rid of kindl

 

i wish we could give him a raise instead - ken holland


Hey. It's not the best signing I've ever seen, but it's not Cleary or Samuelson!! Knock on wood.

 

he already said he wants to re sign cleary



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:02 PM

Is there anyone that still believes that Ken Holland should continue on as the GM of this team?

Do we have to really hit rock bottom for people to wake up?

Isn't this bad enough?

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:03 PM

 

How many players have to pass on Detroit, how many times do we have to be "in the mix" and end up empty handed? Trying isn't good enough anymore. When you miss out on one big name ufa, that's one thing, then a couple years later, not having fixed the problem via trade or free agency, instead using useless plugs a la Quincey, you miss out on a whole lot of big time upgrades? disgraceful, unacceptable... #fireholland

 

Weiss didn't pass, Alfie didn't pass. Datsyuk resigned, Kronwall resigned. What do you want? We can't sign everyone. There are 29 other teams that are trying to get better just like we are. Do you want us to overpay someone just to say we signed them then to be stuck with a horrible cap hit for someone who isn't worth it 4-5 years down the road when we need to resign a bunch of our young guys? 

 

We are building for the next 8-12 years not the next 2. People can't get that through their heads.



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:03 PM

So the Wings told Kyle Quincey at the end of the year they were not interested in resigning him.  So they can't land even the scraps off the free agent heap, so then it's like, hey let's bring back Kyle Quincey and give him a raise!  If someone had told me yesterday, we'd lose out on all the free agents we were after and re-signed Kyle Quincey, wouldn't have believed it.  I still feel like this is some cruel joke or something.



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:04 PM

 
i wish we could give him a raise instead - ken holland

 
he already said he wants to re sign cleary


Yep, cause we "owe" him, since he left term on the table last year. Screw off Holland, it's a business!

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:06 PM

 
Weiss didn't pass, Alfie didn't pass. Datsyuk resigned, Kronwall resigned. What do you want? We can't sign everyone. There are 29 other teams that are trying to get better just like we are. Do you want us to overpay someone just to say we signed them then to be stuck with a horrible cap hit for someone who isn't worth it 4-5 years down the road when we need to resign a bunch of our young guys? 
 
We are building for the next 8-12 years not the next 2. People can't get that through their heads.


Yep , and in these next two years, the future beyond would have benefitted from giving Sproul and/or Ouellet a shot instead of a terrible defenseman making too much money.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:07 PM

You know, it really amazes me how quickly everyone seems to just want to fire KH and blow up the ship. And because of what exactly? We re-signed a guy who played well for us in the second half and has a proven track record of being a solid 3-4 D man. So we didn't sign any big name free agents, and? Did we really want Boyle here for 3 years? No. Orpik for 5 years and $5.5m? No. Niskanen for 7 years? I didn't. Stralman for 5 years? No. The list goes on and on. Guys who are cashing in on one or two good years (besides Boyle) and using the thin market to drive up their prices. It is frankly, a joke. The worst thing the wings could have done was to sign someone like that for a massive term which locks us in, blocking the path for 1 or 2 kids when they are ready either this season or next. 

 

Why is it that we are so quick to lambast something that we don't like, yet it takes 100 things to satisfy us? I mean, for crying out loud, we're not the Leafs. It's not like we haven't won a cup in the last 50 years. And also, it's not even like we're not competitive anymore. This team was a playoff team. Granted, the last 2 years have been touch and go, but 2 years ago we took the cup champs to 7 and had them on the ropes. In that 2012-13 roster, there were 26 players who were part of this seasons roster. 26!!!!!!!! And this season, most were injured, and yet somehow, due to some strong play of guys who will form the future of this team, we made it in. 

 

There is, quite clearly, a rebuild in progress at the moment. And it amazes me how people can't seem to get excited about the future prospects of Dekeyser, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Marchenko, Ouellet, Mantha, Mrazek. Combined with a healthy D and Z and the other GOOD pieces we have on this team. So what's changed? Why has everyone become so despondent, when really, I think our time is coming right around the corner. Maybe not this year, but the year after for sure. If our kids continue trending upwards, we'll be right up there. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to ignore the obvious positives that are emanating from this teams future and insist on throwing everything out in the trash just because we struck out on 1 day of the year is, in my eyes, nuts. 


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:09 PM

 

Weiss didn't pass, Alfie didn't pass. Datsyuk resigned, Kronwall resigned. What do you want? We can't sign everyone. There are 29 other teams that are trying to get better just like we are. Do you want us to overpay someone just to say we signed them then to be stuck with a horrible cap hit for someone who isn't worth it 4-5 years down the road when we need to resign a bunch of our young guys? 

 

We are building for the next 8-12 years not the next 2. People can't get that through their heads.

 

 

Yep , and in these next two years, the future beyond would have benefitted from giving Sproul and/or Ouellet a shot instead of a terrible defenseman making too much money.

 

 

Who says Ouellet won't get a shot to play? There is still one open spot. They even started Ouellet in the playoffs instead of Kindl. Sproul isn't ready. It wouldn't be fair to him to bring him up just to see him struggle and have the fans jump all over him like they do Smith.



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:10 PM

 

Hopefully, he will turn around his game.  Oh well its done.  Hope for the best



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:11 PM

Why am I not surprised.

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#178 Datsyukian-Deke

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:13 PM

You know, it really amazes me how quickly everyone seems to just want to fire KH and blow up the ship. And because of what exactly? We re-signed a guy who played well for us in the second half and has a proven track record of being a solid 3-4 D man. So we didn't sign any big name free agents, and? Did we really want Boyle here for 3 years? No. Orpik for 5 years and $5.5m? No. Niskanen for 7 years? I didn't. Stralman for 5 years? No. The list goes on and on. Guys who are cashing in on one or two good years (besides Boyle) and using the thin market to drive up their prices. It is frankly, a joke. The worst thing the wings could have done was to sign someone like that for a massive term which locks us in, blocking the path for 1 or 2 kids when they are ready either this season or next. 
 
Why is it that we are so quick to lambast something that we don't like, yet it takes 100 things to satisfy us? I mean, for crying out loud, we're not the Leafs. It's not like we haven't won a cup in the last 50 years. And also, it's not even like we're not competitive anymore. This team was a playoff team. Granted, the last 2 years have been touch and go, but 2 years ago we took the cup champs to 7 and had them on the ropes. In that 2012-13 roster, there were 26 players who were part of this seasons roster. 26!!!!!!!! And this season, most were injured, and yet somehow, due to some strong play of guys who will form the future of this team, we made it in. 
 
There is, quite clearly, a rebuild in progress at the moment. And it amazes me how people can't seem to get excited about the future prospects of Dekeyser, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Marchenko, Ouellet, Mantha, Mrazek. Combined with a healthy D and Z and the other GOOD pieces we have on this team. So what's changed? Why has everyone become so despondent, when really, I think our time is coming right around the corner. Maybe not this year, but the year after for sure. If our kids continue trending upwards, we'll be right up there. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to ignore the obvious positives that are emanating from this teams future and insist on throwing everything out in the trash just because we struck out on 1 day of the year is, in my eyes, nuts. 

It's because ever since the Salary Cap, Holland has consistently either been afraid to pull the trigger on the top free agents, or been unable to land the top free agents and create a franchise that players want to play for. Sure he has had to deal with losing some of the greats (aka Lidstrom) but he has been content with keeping this team a competitive first round team while our super star players continue to age. He is a GM that was spoiled early in his tenure when everyone wanted to come here and take a pay cut pre-salary cap and now does not know how to handle when the big fish no longer want the lure.

Edited by Datsyukian-Deke, 01 July 2014 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

F*** Ken Holland.


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

Whatever. Get over it. Move forward. Hope for the best. Prove the haters wrong.  Be thankful Detroit still has a team. Going to be hard to watch, but we aren't the Dead Wings again yet.  Even if we are down the road, I'll still watch this team and support it.

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