rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 This is just me being a fanboy. But I'm always ok with the idea of "going with Sproul". This kid is going to be the next Doughty. He was an absolute steal. Size, speed, shot, athleticism, smarts. I legitimately think he'll be a better player than Mantha even, but that's just me. Anyway, back on topic. Green would help, but I'd definitely not trade too much to get him. AND it would be wise to dump salary where you could to offset the acquisition (Kindl and Andersson). I think Sproul's going to be good too. We have some legit D prospects and it's awesome. Which is precicely why, for once, I think they should stay buried in GRs for as long as possible. 2 wings4thecup06 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 Mike Green is the Red Wings target. We are trying to make a deal quickly according to Fox Sports http://msn.foxsports.com/detroit/story/source-defenseman-mike-green-is-wings-top-trade-target-070814 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I'm going to be pissed if they trade Jurco to get him. Of the top young forwards Tatar is the most expendable, but unless something else comes back with Green I don't want any of them traded. Washington won't want Kindl with the number of d they have, but Andersson and a pick plus a mid level prospect would be OK. Edited July 8, 2014 by DickieDunn 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 i can't see how they'd be stupid enough to trade a big young forward like Jurco or Sheahan or even Tatar, based on the season they just had. Factor in how we've got some good young D men coming and it doesn;t make sense. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 Overpaying for Green and his injury history would be dumb. If Holland offers one of the top prospects or even Pulkinnen he needs to be fired. Can't pull another Legwand like trade.. Never been a fan of his lackluster defense but if you can get him for a good price might be worth a chance, although I'd rather have Myers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arag 308 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Weiss needs a buddy to go to the year long rehab with him and somebody to get millions of dollars for sitting and watching hockey with him. Green will be perfect. Edited July 9, 2014 by arag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 From what I have seen from Sproul (which is not much) he is far from NHL ready. I would say there is a definite need for a short/intermediate solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 This is just me being a fanboy. But I'm always ok with the idea of "going with Sproul". This kid is going to be the next Doughty. He was an absolute steal. Size, speed, shot, athleticism, smarts. I legitimately think he'll be a better player than Mantha even, but that's just me. Anyway, back on topic. Green would help, but I'd definitely not trade too much to get him. AND it would be wise to dump salary where you could to offset the acquisition (Kindl and Andersson). Apparently, the Caps wouldn't want Kindl back in a trade though as they need to shed a D, not acquire one. Per MLive... I'm assuming that Tatar would be the centrepiece and I'd give Andersson and a 4th as a trade. No more than that though as Green only has 1 year left on his contract and we're all over over-paying for rentals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) This is just me being a fanboy. But I'm always ok with the idea of "going with Sproul". This kid is going to be the next Doughty. He was an absolute steal. Size, speed, shot, athleticism, smarts. I legitimately think he'll be a better player than Mantha even, but that's just me. Anyway, back on topic. Green would help, but I'd definitely not trade too much to get him. AND it would be wise to dump salary where you could to offset the acquisition (Kindl and Andersson). Apparently, the Caps wouldn't want Kindl back in a trade though as they need to shed a D, not acquire one. Per MLive... I'm assuming that Tatar would be the centrepiece and I'd give Andersson and a 4th as a trade. No more than that though as Green only has 1 year left on his contract and we're all over over-paying for rentals. Tatar for Myers straight up is a NO. Let alone Andersson too. A lot of people on here are pegging Tatar a Hudler when the organization has been said to be grooming him as a Zetterberg. Edit-I remember Mickey and Ken talking about it while discussing our future as our 2 main center pieces going forward are Tatar & Nyquist Edited July 9, 2014 by 13dangledangle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 Apparently, the Caps wouldn't want Kindl back in a trade though as they need to shed a D, not acquire one. Per MLive... I'm assuming that Tatar would be the centrepiece and I'd give Andersson and a 4th as a trade. No more than that though as Green only has 1 year left on his contract and we're all over over-paying for rentals. Lol. I get it, you're trolling me. Good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 Tatar for Myers straight up is a NO. Let alone Andersson too. A lot of people on here are pegging Tatar a Hudler when the organization has been said to be grooming him as a Zetterberg. Edit-I remember Mickey and Ken talking about it while discussing our future as our 2 main center pieces going forward are Tatar & Nyquist I think you're overestimating how good Tatar is going to be by a long way. He's more of a 60 point winger than a cornerstone of a franchise. Jurco Nyquist and Mantha all have the potential to be much better. 2 krsmith17 and Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 Apparently, the Caps wouldn't want Kindl back in a trade though as they need to shed a D, not acquire one. Per MLive... I'm assuming that Tatar would be the centrepiece and I'd give Andersson and a 4th as a trade. No more than that though as Green only has 1 year left on his contract and we're all over over-paying for rentals. I've said that for days this isn't new news people just don't read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 I think you're overestimating how good Tatar is going to be by a long way. He's more of a 60 point winger than a cornerstone of a franchise. Jurco Nyquist and Mantha all have the potential to be much better. I can certainly appreciate what you're saying but that just isn't the player I saw on the ice. If they trade him I hope you're right haha, if they don't obviously I hope wrong. All we need now is time, one of us will be feasting on crow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 I've said that for days this isn't new news people just don't read. I apologize. I skim most stuff that still includes buying out Franzen and firing Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 I've said that for days this isn't new news people just don't read. Plus many of us block certain users posts so we can choose which to read.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 Friend of mine just sent me an sms with: Dave Davis @DaveDavisHockey 33 minAccording to Fox Sports Detroit, the big obstacle in a Tyler Myers trade to the Red Wings is that the Sabres want Anthony Mantha. So I guess that's some sort of Twitter-feed ? Anyway, if Murray wants Mantha I'd pray Kenny hangs up immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 Plus many of us block certain users posts so we can choose which to read.... I don't block anyone. I like reading everyone's post whether I agree or disagree it's good to get several peoples view points. 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings4thecup06 504 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 Friend of mine just sent me an sms with: Dave Davis @DaveDavisHockey 33 min According to Fox Sports Detroit, the big obstacle in a Tyler Myers trade to the Red Wings is that the Sabres want Anthony Mantha. So I guess that's some sort of Twitter-feed ? Anyway, if Murray wants Mantha I'd pray Kenny hangs up immediately. I think the worrying thing here is that if Mantha is the highest valued prospect from our organisation, that means that anything below him could have been offered and potentially could be taken by the Sabres (i.e anyone, including guys like Jurco, Tatar, Sheahan). I'm getting more nervous by the minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites