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#41 MileHighWingsGuy

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:15 PM

Holland trading for Defense this year will be just like last years Holland trading to get rid of the glut of forwards...it just never happens. Holland washed his hands of free

agency when he re-signed Quincey. It was his way of saying there we're set. Every year whether at the trade deadline or free agency we wait for a big move and it just never comes.

I hope no one is waiting this year, it won't happen until we get a new GM.


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:25 PM

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:12 PM

Does his weight affect his game? Does he get passed easily? Is he abnormally slow? I guess I hear the fat accusations but no one seems to discuss his actual playing ability. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:16 PM

By the way, 'D' hunting sounds like the PMS-version of a golf outing....



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:26 PM

Does his weight affect his game? Does he get passed easily? Is he abnormally slow? I guess I hear the fat accusations but no one seems to discuss his actual playing ability. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

I wouldn't mind the guy - he's a good offensive defenseman/forward hybrid. Although, I think there are other serviceable options with less baggage.



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:29 PM

As long as his food expenses do not go against our salary cap it would be ok to have him on board.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:13 PM

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:27 PM

he will not trade for anyone. Considering he won't part with kids, or Helm, Franzen, Smith or Kindl...He talks a big game and lets everyone down... Heck Leisure Suit Larry has made better moves than #firekenholland...and has scored!


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:41 PM

Btw Byflugien is fat

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:46 PM

Does his weight affect his game? Does he get passed easily? Is he abnormally slow?

I guess I hear the fat accusations but no one seems to discuss his actual playing ability.

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He's fat and bad defensively. Like I said, if he moved to wing and was cheap, OK. On d or for a lot, no thanks.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 07:57 PM

He's fat and bad defensively. Like I said, if he moved to wing and was cheap, OK. On d or for a lot, no thanks.


Disagree. With how fat he is he should be in net.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:10 PM

How come Brent Seabrook is not getting mentioned anywhere as a possible target?  His game has come down some, but he only has 2 yrs left on his contract. I would rather have him at 2 yrs 5.9 than most of the contracts other dmen just received.  RHed and a huge upgrade over anything we currently have.  The Hawks are in need of shedding a bigger contract. 



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:15 PM

How come Brent Seabrook is not getting mentioned anywhere as a possible target?  His game has come down some, but he only has 2 yrs left on his contract. I would rather have him at 2 yrs 5.9 than most of the contracts other dmen just received.  RHed and a huge upgrade over anything we currently have.  The Hawks are in need of shedding a bigger contract. 


Even in a different conference the hawks won't trade with us. Avs type rivalries come and go, but hawk hatred is for life.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:48 PM

I keep wondering why we don't throw something at Chicago for Hjalmersson. The hawks are 2.5 million over the cap. We take Hjalmersson for Kindl and a pick and the CBH are cap compliant and we are MUCH better defensively.
The Caps are in the same spot, having 8 D signed with the ridiculous Orpik signing. John Carlsson or Karl Alzer are both upgrades over Kindl......and if we wanted to be bold, we could take Green for the last year of his contact.
Some teams need to shed players or salaries. If Holland had any sense he would be going to the cap exhausted teams and try to pick cherries. Then again, we still have Franzen, pay Q more than Erhoff and haven't resigned Tatar so my faith is waning.
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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:52 PM

I keep wondering why we don't throw something at Chicago for Hjalmersson. The hawks are 2.5 million over the cap. We take Hjalmersson for Kindl and a pick and the CBH are cap compliant and we are MUCH better defensively.
The Caps are in the same spot, having 8 D signed with the ridiculous Orpik signing. John Carlsson or Karl Alzer are both upgrades over Kindl......and if we wanted to be bold, we could take Green for the last year of his contact.
Some teams need to shed players or salaries. If Holland had any sense he would be going to the cap exhausted teams and try to pick cherries. Then again, we still have Franzen, pay Q more than Erhoff and haven't resigned Tatar so my faith is waning.


Well I have no idea if hjalmersson is RFA or not, but if ur referring to a trade with the hawks, it'll never happen with us.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:56 PM

That would be a dream, Hjalmarsson is incredibly good.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 12:52 AM

Red Wings and Hawks doing a trade ? Never!

 

That's also why a guy like Seabrook would never sign here even if he becomes UFA and we throw a lot of money at him.

 

I just went to the Winnipeg forum and from what I've read it seems like Cheveldayoff is a poor version of Holland (reluctant to lose a trade, not willing to take risks and doesn't change too much), so I think this two teams would be horrible trade partners. Although Trouba, Scheifele, and especially Bogosian, Wheeler would be really nice pieces.

 

I still think the only remaining options, which make sense are Tyler Myers or Keith Yandle. If their asking prices are too high stay pat and gun for a great draftpick in an excellent draft class.


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:32 AM

Red Wings and Hawks doing a trade ? Never!

 

That's also why a guy like Seabrook would never sign here even if he becomes UFA and we throw a lot of money at him.

 

I just went to the Winnipeg forum and from what I've read it seems like Cheveldayoff is a poor version of Holland (reluctant to lose a trade, not willing to take risks and doesn't change too much), so I think this two teams would be horrible trade partners. Although Trouba, Scheifele, and especially Bogosian, Wheeler would be really nice pieces.

 

I still think the only remaining options, which make sense are Tyler Myers or Keith Yandle. If their asking prices are too high stay pat and gun for a great draftpick in an excellent draft class.

 

The Jets have got a ton of talent, they just seem lacking when it comes to putting it all together. After Maurice was hired they seemed to start figuring things out, but it was a bit of too little too late. 


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 05:32 AM

never say never.....Chris Chelios for Anders Eriksson.


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Posted 05 July 2014 - 06:19 AM

Red Wings and Hawks doing a trade ? Never!

 

That's also why a guy like Seabrook would never sign here even if he becomes UFA and we throw a lot of money at him.

 

I just went to the Winnipeg forum and from what I've read it seems like Cheveldayoff is a poor version of Holland (reluctant to lose a trade, not willing to take risks and doesn't change too much), so I think this two teams would be horrible trade partners. Although Trouba, Scheifele, and especially Bogosian, Wheeler would be really nice pieces.

 

I still think the only remaining options, which make sense are Tyler Myers or Keith Yandle. If their asking prices are too high stay pat and gun for a great draftpick in an excellent draft class.

Right, its not like we'd ever trade for a despised Chicago native and icon in Chris Chelios and then have him stay in Detroit for years and work for the Red Wings or anything  ;)  That would never happen!







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