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#221 chances14

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:17 PM

This is clearly ridiculous, but I don't know if Holland's quote has been metioned...this at least takes some of the sting off:

 

http://www.mlive.com..._forward_2.html

 

Regardless, this is easily the worst off-season in the Wings have had in recent memory.

do you honestly believe that?

 

only reason babcock benched him last year is because he was injured. If he isn't injured, he is going to be playing, no matter how much he sucks



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:18 PM

Huh... Could have sworn that today was July 10th not April Fools...

He could still end up in GA, even on a one way contract. It just means he gets paid the full contract amount while playing there. So it would be a waste of cap space, but not a waste of a roster spot.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:19 PM

Iam sure many of us hope that Weiss will be back healthy and provide what was expected of him. If that happens I will close my eyes on Cleary. Let him be. Do whatever he does. I don't mind if he does not play more than 5 games. Let him at least sign autographs for the kids.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:20 PM

Huh... Could have sworn that today was July 10th not April Fools...

He could still end up in GA, even on a one way contract. It just means he gets paid the full contract amount while playing there. So it would be a waste of cap space, but not a waste of a roster spot.

as long as babcock is coach of the red wings, he isn't going to grand rapids



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:20 PM

I literally spent the last two days arguing with guys who think we should trade Tatar and that "Holland's done everything he can" to make this team better but "you can't make people sign here". 

 

On the one hand I'm bummed that our already bad team didn't get any better.  On the other hand I'm delighted to have some evidence to point at the next time I say KH isf****** up. 


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:20 PM

From a practiclal standpoint..if he isn't playing, I don't care.  We're going to be under the cap with or without his 1.5mil.  I don't want to see Dan Cleary playing over a Jurco or any other productive player unless he magically becomes 2008 Dan Cleary again.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:22 PM

On the bright side. Now we know what was Holland doing this summer. He was making sure Cleary works hard in the gym.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:23 PM

I'd buy into the whole, "the best players will play" thing if last year didn't go down the way it did - with some of this team's best talent in the AHL... *sigh*


The most popular choice among the Red Wings as to who would volunteer to play goalie – several Panthers did in their game – was Brendan Smith.
 
"He's pretty competitive and he seems to be good at everything," Justin Abdelkader said. "He'd volunteer himself."
 
Babcock was a bit more hesitant about Smith. "Yeah, yeah, just work on getting out of your zone," Babcock said

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:25 PM

do you honestly believe that?

 

only reason babcock benched him last year is because he was injured. If he isn't injured, he is going to be playing, no matter how much he sucks

I'm just desperately trying to look for any glimmer of hope. 



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:27 PM

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#RedWings GM Ken Holland: "My program has been one of loyalty and there's good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion."

 

 

so is holland himself admitting that the cleary signing is a bad one?



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:27 PM

I'd buy into the whole, "the best players will play" thing if last year didn't go down the way it did - with some of this team's best talent in the AHL... *sigh*

 

But in the end, old guys were benched for the kids. It didn't start well, but in the end the best players did play. If it continues to be that way, this isn't a big deal.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:30 PM

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#RedWings GM Ken Holland: "My program has been one of loyalty and there's good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion."

 

 

so is holland himself admitting that the cleary signing is a bad one?

Oh FFS Kenny, if it's that important, stick him in some BS front office job.  We're all greatful for what he did in the past, but MOVE ON.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:30 PM

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 1m
#RedWings GM Ken Holland: "My program has been one of loyalty and there's good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion."
 
 
so is holland himself admitting that the cleary signing is a bad one?


Sounds like that to me

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:33 PM

It's like watching someone hang on too long and become a shell of their former self. This is the Dan Cleary I'm going to remember...

 

I knew i was spoiled watching that team but man still i feel bad for not enjoying it as much

 

we will NEVER have a team as exciting to watch as the 08,09 teams.

 

Utter domination every game, Hasek having 13 shots against and letting in 3.... Lids and Raffi :( Prime Z and D....hossa 

 

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:34 PM

Kenny sounds like a guy trying to explain his latest STD. 


I like this team.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:34 PM

This will only stop if we stop making it into the playoffs. Holland doesn't have a clue!!!!

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

 

But in the end, old guys were benched for the kids. It didn't start well, but in the end the best players did play. If it continues to be that way, this isn't a big deal.

it is a big deal. not having nyquist last season cost the wings points in the standings early on. that could have been the difference between playing against boston or against a more favorable team like the penguins come playoff time. every single point matters



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 1m
#RedWings GM Ken Holland: "My program has been one of loyalty and there's good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion."
 
 
so is holland himself admitting that the cleary signing is a bad one?

Sounds like it, although the fact that he's even going public about his views on loyalty makes it seem like he's trying to demonstrate the perks of signing and playing for Detroit. After striking out on the free agency targets this year, I can see why Holland would want to demonstrate his loyalty and his desire to take care of his players, and the perks that it brings. I just hope that if/when Cleary can't play effectively in a top 12 role, Babs and Holland keep him off the ice and don't impede on a younger player's opportunity to contribute and grow.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:42 PM

Sounds like it, although the fact that he's even going public about his views on loyalty makes it seem like he's trying to demonstrate the perks of signing and playing for Detroit. After striking out on the free agency targets this year, I can see why Holland would want to demonstrate his loyalty and his desire to take care of his players, and the perks that it brings. I just hope that if/when Cleary can't play effectively in a top 12 role, Babs and Holland keep him off the ice and don't impede on a younger player's opportunity to contribute and grow.

it does seem that way. Though I bet more people would be willing to sign here if we were just a more competitive team.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:45 PM

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 1m

#RedWings GM Ken Holland: "My program has been one of loyalty and there's good and bad that goes with that. Way more good, in my opinion."

 

 

so is holland himself admitting that the cleary signing is a bad one?

 

This proves Holland is delusional.







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