"Of course I can explain what's wrong with this, I just don't want to! I'll just say it's made up cuz i'm a mod" Well done harold, well done.
It came off as maybe more blunt than intended because I didn't elaborate, but my point stands that you are making all this conjecture about things we have no real idea about.
Sure it's speculation. But it isn't baseless. It's called extrapolation and its amazing the amount of info you can get by it. You should try it sometime!
Answer me this:
Do you really think he turned down a 3 year deal from Detroit because his heart was in Detroit? Does that make sense to you?
- doesn't make sense to me
I have no idea and neither do you. He may not have realized how much he liked playing on the Wings until he was confronted with the reality of playing on another team. Who knows.
Did he turn down multi-year offers from multiple teams (or even 1 team) to come back? Or was it a tryout with one team with no guarantees?
-Indications are it was the latter (I'll admit I'm not positive as its been claimed both ways, still alot of confusion about this)
Holland has said (who you're using as a source so let's say he's reliable) that Cleary had multiple offers from other teams.
“He had three-year offers from some teams last year,” Holland said. “We said at the time we would talk at the end of the season.”
Do you think this handshake deal has nothing to do with this signing?
-Quotes from Holland strongly indicate it does
I never said it doesn't. As you point out, Holland said it does.
Do you really think his agent was just going to forget about said deal?
-Wouldn't be much of an agent if he did. Of course he's going to reach out to the GM about it.
Probably. who knows. But you're stating it as fact and it's speculation on your part.
And please tell me what kind of positive leadership the guy is bringing to the table and (if there is any) how that outweighs his on ice performances.
-If they need his locker room presence so bad then they could pay him to sit in the locker room. Pay him a million buck for a few years to be 'President of Team Morale'. No need to sign him to a playing contract.
I don't need to tell you any of that. If you read any of my posts in this thread, I'm not in favor of bringing Cleary back.
I just pointed out that you're hating him for invented reasons. That he only came back because no one else wanted him. That he thinks he deserves special treatment. That his agent keeps bringing up this handshake deal.
Nothing you've quoted confirms any of that. It's all just your speculation, which you admit. Which means it is not factual, it is made up based on your opinion.