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#41 number9

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:38 AM

 
The former is highly unlikely and the latter is going to be tough to ignore. 


With everyone healthy we'll easily make the playoffs....


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:46 AM

Is that the goal now? The Play-offs?


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:49 AM

Is that the goal now? The Play-offs?


Haven't you heard? In the playoffs anything can happen! It's like willy wonka's hockey factory

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:50 AM

With everyone healthy we'll easily make the playoffs....


Oh no, did I rock the doomsday boat?

No, nor was my previous post a doomsday prediction. Expecting the Wings to be entirely healthy just isn't realistic. The core players are a year older and all have recent injury histories. Last season was flukey in terms of man games lost and likely won't be repeated, but the Wings haven't maintained much consistent health as a team over the past five years.

You also said to ignore the defense. Which apparently is also Holland's motto, but a tough task considering how bad they were and how the Wings plan on using that same group again this season.

Edited by GoWings1905, 13 July 2014 - 01:23 AM.

 
 
"To whom much is given, much is expected."
 
 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 12:52 AM

No, nor was my previous post a doomsday prediction. Expecting the Wings to be entirely healthy just isn't realistic. The core players are a year older and all have recent injury histories. Last year was flukey in terms of man games lost and likely won't be repeated, but the Wings haven't maintained much consistent health as a team over the past five years.

You also said to ignore the defense. Which apparently is Holland's motto also, but a tough task considering how bad they were and the Wings plan on using that same group again this season.


You must be detached from reality sir, we're getting both Green and Myers this offseason. The defense is locked up!

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 09:39 AM

People here seem to forget there's a Salary Cap. I think it's obvious Holland is building through the draft, and won't overpay for UFA's. Teams that build through the draft win Championships, teams that sign over priced UFA's don't.

 

Hindsight is always 20/20 vision, after the 2009 playoffs if Holland signed Hossa over Franzen there would have been a riot! Hossa was a letdown in the playoffs, while Franzen had 12 goals, and 13 the year before. I think based on what both players make, and the points they've put up, Franzen vs. Hossa has been a wash.

Maybe he wants to build through the draft like you said, but that obviously isn't happening. If the plan is to build through the draft and not overpriced FA, then maybe he should let the draftees play and not the overpriced FA like Cleary and Quincy.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

I don't know what there is to be confused about, we have absolutely no direction...



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 10:52 PM

People here seem to forget there's a Salary Cap. I think it's obvious Holland is building through the draft, and won't overpay for UFA's. Teams that build through the draft win Championships, teams that sign over priced UFA's don't.

 

Hindsight is always 20/20 vision, after the 2009 playoffs if Holland signed Hossa over Franzen there would have been a riot! Hossa was a letdown in the playoffs, while Franzen had 12 goals, and 13 the year before. I think based on what both players make, and the points they've put up, Franzen vs. Hossa has been a wash.

 

You keep making this claim as if it's fact while ignoring the truth. Holland has offered numerous UFA's "overpayments" over the last few seasons. For various reasons the targeted players have signed elsewhere. This isn't a win for Holland. He wanted these UFA's. He offered them big (sometimes BIGGER) money. He has also signed Q and Clearly to overpriced contracts in the last month.



#49 Krayzie_Bone

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:01 AM

 

i Can't, I... just... Can't... stop... watching...


wait babs is black lol

Same here



#50 Dabura

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 10:11 AM

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#51 rick zombo

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 10:23 AM

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That stupid Dekeyser kid eh? Leaving Quincey all alone to defend against Brassard. Poor Kyle.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 12:58 PM

The link is broken? Booo. And yet, fitting.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:46 PM

Something I've been thinking about:

 

Let's say we do, in fact, win the Cup within the next three or four years (i.e. while we still have Datsyuk). What does that roster look like, realistically?


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#54 DeGraa55

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:16 PM

Something I've been thinking about:
 
Let's say we do, in fact, win the Cup within the next three or four years (i.e. while we still have Datsyuk). What does that roster look like, realistically?


Kind of hard to do. This roster won't win a cup. It'll involve FA and/or trades. But people need to be added.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:31 PM

Kind of hard to do. This roster won't win a cup. It'll involve FA and/or trades. But people need to be added.

 

Growth from within?

 

Something I've been thinking about:

 

Let's say we do, in fact, win the Cup within the next three or four years (i.e. while we still have Datsyuk). What does that roster look like, realistically?

 

This is fun to think about:

 

Nyquist - Datsyuk - Mantha

Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco

Zetterberg - Larkin - Abdlekader

Athanasiou - Nastasiuk - Bertuzzi

 

McKee :lol:  Pulkinnen

 

Kronwall - DeKeyser

Ouellet - Sproul

Smith - Marchenko

Backman 

 

Mrazek

Howard

 

Lot’s of character in that forward group. Not sure if Pavel can still pivot on the first line. 

 

P.S. Mrazek wins the Conn Smyth


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Posted 25 July 2014 - 02:53 AM

No big E ?

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 06:04 AM

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Datsyuk - Jurco

Sheahan - Weiss - Mantha

Abdelkader - Helm - Callahan

Miller - Glendenning

 

Kronwall - Ericsson

DeKeyser - Quincey

Smith - Sproul

Lashoff

 

Howard

Mrazek

 

2015-16 Stanley Cup Champions! :stanley: ;)



#58 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 06:11 AM

No big E ?

No Helm is the worst part.  I'd love to see the speed on a line of Helm-Larkin-Athaniesou.


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Datsyuk - Jurco

Sheahan - Weiss - Mantha

Abdelkader - Helm - Callahan

Miller - Glendenning

 

Kronwall - Ericsson

DeKeyser - Quincey

Smith - Sproul

Lashoff

 

Howard

Mrazek

 

2015-16 Stanley Cup Champions! :stanley: ;)

That line up makes me actually want to get NHL Gamecenter after this year.  I wish we could swap KFQ for Ouellet though.  His positioning, vision and 1st pass make him a huge asset.  One can assume Marchenko's gonna make a push soon too, so Ericsson will have to play exceptional to keep that spot with Kronwall.


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#59 rick zombo

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 07:48 AM

No Helm is the worst part.  I'd love to see the speed on a line of Helm-Larkin-Athaniesou.

No big E ?

 

If you look at my line-up (which was done in a pretty light-hearted fashion by the way) it's clear that I was looking 3-4 years down the road. By then, Ericsson's deal will be up and he'll be passed over for younger/better players. And Helm? Let's just just say, with his injury history,  I'll be surprised if he can still walk in 3-4 years


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Posted 25 July 2014 - 02:43 PM

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Datsyuk - Jurco

Sheahan - Weiss - Mantha

Abdelkader - Helm - Callahan

Miller - Glendenning

 

Kronwall - Ericsson

DeKeyser - Quincey

Smith - Sproul

Lashoff

 

Howard

Mrazek

 

2015-16 Stanley Cup Champions! :stanley: ;)

 

We could actually see this lineup at some point this season, which to me, is pretty exciting! 


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