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#161 Son of a Wing

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 11:43 AM

...so Holland says he is looking to re-sign Alfie and will NOT be signing a depth defenseman or forward.  So our worst nightmare has come true.  Only $4M left in cap, don't know how he is going to split that up between Danny and Alfie...

 

Dekeyser can take 2.5m on a short deal and Alfie can have an incentive-based contract (like Iginlas this past season) with a base of 1-1.5m plus bonuses.

 

Definitely FAR from our worst nightmares...


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:18 PM

 

Dekeyser can take 2.5m on a short deal and Alfie can have an incentive-based contract (like Iginlas this past season) with a base of 1-1.5m plus bonuses.

 

Definitely FAR from our worst nightmares...

 

And why should Danny do that ? Tatar got a great deal I'm sure Danny is looking at something around 3 - 3,5 per  which he should be guy is easily worth that.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:27 PM

 

And why should Danny do that ? Tatar got a great deal I'm sure Danny is looking at something around 3 - 3,5 per  which he should be guy is easily worth that.

 

Great. Pay him that and we're still under the cap.  Still don't see why this is our "worst nightmare".


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 02:09 PM

...so Holland says he is looking to re-sign Alfie and will NOT be signing a depth defenseman or forward.  So our worst nightmare has come true.  Only $4M left in cap, don't know how he is going to split that up between Danny and Alfie...

 

Alfie will mostly count against the cap next season. I don't think the Wings really need depth either. They need impact players, particularly on defense. Holland whiffed there, but we don't need more Brian Lashoff's on defense. 

 

Forward actually looks decent if (and it's a huge if) they can stay healthy. 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM

...so Holland says he is looking to re-sign Alfie and will NOT be signing a depth defenseman or forward.  So our worst nightmare has come true.  Only $4M left in cap, don't know how he is going to split that up between Danny and Alfie...

 

Out of curiosity.....what depth players out there do you want?



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 02:22 PM

 
Out of curiosity.....what depth players out there do you want?


Ryan Suter and David Backes

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:23 PM

...so Holland says he is looking to re-sign Alfie and will NOT be signing a depth defenseman or forward.  So our worst nightmare has come true.  Only $4M left in cap, don't know how he is going to split that up between Danny and Alfie...

 

 

Out of curiosity.....what depth players out there do you want?

 

Ryan Suter and David Backes

 

The question I asked was based on LeftWinger saying he wanted the Wings to sign some depth players instead of resigning Alfie. Suter and Backes are not UFA so they cannot be signed. Plus, neither would be considered as "depth", and neither would fit under the cap.



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:45 PM

Ryan Suter and David Backes

I think Kopitar and Weber are better fits. Kopitar could center our 3rd line if Helm is injured again.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 07:15 PM

 
 
 
The question I asked was based on LeftWinger saying he wanted the Wings to sign some depth players instead of resigning Alfie. Suter and Backes are not UFA so they cannot be signed. Plus, neither would be considered as "depth", and neither would fit under the cap.

My tongue is never far from my cheek, cowboy. :lol:

I think Kopitar and Weber are better fits. Kopitar could center our 3rd line if Helm is injured again.

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i.e. I still can't stand Weber and just want an excuse to have Backes as a Wing.

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 07:43 PM

I think Kopitar and Weber are better fits. Kopitar could center our 3rd line if Helm is injured again.


That's just silly. Kopitar wouldn't even make this team.

And weber? Well I bet even Quincey could make him look bad.

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 07:50 PM

My tongue is never far from my cheek, cowboy. :lol:

 

LOL. You never know on here!



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:23 PM

Nothing really new, but this was on NHL.com today.

 

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:03 AM

Nothing really new, but this was on NHL.com today.

 

http://www.nhl.com/i...id=nhl:topheads

 

I don't think the Wings and Alfie will come to a decision until after training camp. Alfie and management know that if he performs well and Alfie feels that he can go for another season then the Wings will probably sign him to some contract that fits AFTER DK is signed. As others have mentioned this is kind of a double edged sword with Jurco starting with the Griffs if Alfie does sign. 



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:56 PM

 

I don't think the Wings and Alfie will come to a decision until after training camp. Alfie and management know that if he performs well and Alfie feels that he can go for another season then the Wings will probably sign him to some contract that fits AFTER DK is signed. As others have mentioned this is kind of a double edged sword with Jurco starting with the Griffs if Alfie does sign. 

 

Personally, I think Jurco was doomed as soon as Cleary was signed. The only saving grace here though is if management sees that Cleary has a horrible camp and decides that they've had enough. 


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:50 PM

 

Personally, I think Jurco was doomed as soon as Cleary was signed. The only saving grace here though is if management sees that Cleary has a horrible camp and decides that they've had enough. 

 

I don't think he is doomed. The only way he doesn't end up playing is he is sent down to the minors AND every single Red Wing forward stays healthy for 82 games. There is always someone injured, i'm sure Jurco will get his playing time in and by then end of the year be playing every game.



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 04:39 PM

 

I don't think he is doomed. The only way he doesn't end up playing is he is sent down to the minors AND every single Red Wing forward stays healthy for 82 games. There is always someone injured, i'm sure Jurco will get his playing time in and by then end of the year be playing every game.

 

 

I meant doomed in terms of starting the season with the Wings and then staying for the season. 

 

I have no doubt he'll get called up and play at least 20 games at some point. 


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 09:18 AM

 
Personally, I think Jurco was doomed as soon as Cleary was signed. The only saving grace here though is if management sees that Cleary has a horrible camp and decides that they've had enough. 


Dano is going to get his 10 games to shine, regardless. The real question remains: Will management sit him after he proves ineffective during that stint?

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 03:23 PM

Dano is going to get his 10 games to shine, regardless. The real question remains: Will management sit him after he proves ineffective during that stint?

 

Even if Cleary has a horrible camp and is clearly a really bad option to be kept on the roster? I could see it happening if he has a good camp yes, but what if he just can't play at this level anymore? 


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 05:29 PM

Cleary was a healthy scratch last year despite our injury problems. It would happen again this year if he's bad. Last year he was given a pretty long leash, though, and played pretty long after he'd proven ineffective. Hopefully, they'll take a few yards of that leash this year.


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 08:39 PM

It is absolutely a problem to keep a player who is not NHL caliber on the roster. Unless he gets a lot better, Dan Cleary is not NHL caliber.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!






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