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#41 toby91_ca

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 02:59 PM

The only problem I have with these types of deals is that the player will always earn more than they should.  Sign for a few years that you grow into, then you sign your next deal that overpays early again for you to grow into it, etc.  Perhaps they'll be a bargain by the end of the deal, but what about the years leading up to the end of the deal?  I'm using hypotheticals now, but if a player signs for 5 years that turns out to be a bargain in the last year or 2, it doesn't change the fact that he was overpaid for the majority of the contract. 

 

In Tatar's case, I don't think that is a big issue though as even if he is overpaid for the entire thing, a 3-year, $2.75M contract is not going to cause any issues.  It's the long-term, high dollar contracts that suck.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:06 PM

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:16 PM

I mean, in a full season Tatar's going to give you 20+ goals.  To me 20 goals is worth 2.75 million, every day of the week.  20+ goals and shutdown defense will get you 5 million plus.  Ask Kesler or O'Reilly. 

 

Tatar's getting paid what he should. 


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:17 PM

 

 

....aaaaaaand the mob goes wild?

 

Nope, it's what I thought he was going to get based on what Flip got back in the day.

 


 

Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:29 PM

Dekeyser 5 @ $4.5M.

Tatar 4 @ $3M

Sheahan  3 @ $1.5M

Glendening 2 @ $1M

 

Dekeyser, I have no problem paying him that much right now. He is already on par, arguably better, than Ericssons. I would do 8 years @ $5M per and be satisfied.

 

 

 

I was wrong on Sheahan, in the ball park on Tatar. As I said in the "Predicting our RFA Contracts" thread, he got Flip money but that money is a lower cap hit percentage now. Gus is gonna get paid next off season. If he puts up another 25G+ season $5M will be on the table I think.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:22 PM

Wow, way more than I thought it would be, and I do think it's over payment but like a lot of others are saying, I'm just happy to have him re-signed.

$2.75 mil per for 3 years for a guy who only got less than 20 goals cause he was a healthy scratch for the first 9 games?  I'll take that deal any day for Tatar.  His value is high for the team and will only get more valuable.


I mean, in a full season Tatar's going to give you 20+ goals.  To me 20 goals is worth 2.75 million, every day of the week.  20+ goals and shutdown defense will get you 5 million plus.  Ask Kesler or O'Reilly. 

 

Tatar's getting paid what he should. 

Damn right homie!  Agreed 100%.  Tatar will be a bargain when he gets 25+ goals next season, and the next, and the next.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:27 PM

I concur with those saying it's a good deal. It may be a slight overpayment now, but if he is consistent with bringing 20+ goals and the same energy and drive he showed last year, it is going to be a bargain. I hadn't realized he'd still be RFA after a three year deal until someone posted it in this thread. That is going to come in handy for the next contract negotiations in a big way, imho.
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:38 PM

Comparables

 

Matt Read: 3.625AAV

Artem Anisimov: 3.25AAV

Tyler Ennis: 2.8AAV

Boedker: 2.55AAV

 

We got it just right I think



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:56 PM

Maybe a little bit too much considering he's a RFA. But we have the capspace and it's a reasonable price for a 20 goal Winger so it's ok but not perfect.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

This is a good number, especially on a three year deal (and he's still an RFA when this contract expires??).
Like kip said, he's going to be a 20 goal scorer (he almost was last season), and he has that Helm like tenacity and heart, even if he doesn't have the 6'2" frame. The team seems to feed of his energy and he's capable of being an integral part of the team moving forward. The caphit this season will be slightly overvalued, unless he really grows as a hockey player this season, but the following two seasons if he really continues to develop, he just might be able to push 30 goals a season. This is a fair contract for both sides, but the potential deal in the second and third years outweighs any negatives the cap-hit brings.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 04:02 PM

Nice Nice Nice, under 3 for 3 years! Good luck Tats!!
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 04:12 PM

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 04:30 PM

One down, one to go.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 04:44 PM

I was figuring closer to $2 mil since he was a RFA, but I guess if DFC can get $2.5 mil (does anyone think he won't get his 10 games?) Tatar probably wasn't going to sign for less than the team cheerleader.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 05:04 PM

Holland's mushroom in his basement, as I've been told by a friend who posts here too said someone called me, thinks this is a good move. DeKeyser is next, then Nyquist, Smith, Jurco, and Andersson next off season.

 

We need the cap room to sign them, so no UFA signings next year either. Just a warning :tounge:


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 05:55 PM

Slight over-payment for this year but great value overall.  Love the 3 year term with RFA status at the end.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:06 PM

 

Nope, it's what I thought he was going to get based on what Flip got back in the day.

 

I was wrong on Sheahan, in the ball park on Tatar. As I said in the "Predicting our RFA Contracts" thread, he got Flip money but that money is a lower cap hit percentage now. Gus is gonna get paid next off season. If he puts up another 25G+ season $5M will be on the table I think.

 

As I remember you took some heat for that opinion...lol


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:08 PM

Holland's mushroom in his basement, as I've been told by a friend who posts here too said someone called me, thinks this is a good move. DeKeyser is next, then Nyquist, Smith, Jurco, and Andersson next off season.
 
We need the cap room to sign them, so no UFA signings next year either. Just a warning :tounge:

I wouldn't go that far...the cap will go up again and we prolly won't re-sign Andersson. Smith and Jurco I don't see getting what Tatar just got. Nyquist will be the only one getting decent money. We will still have cap space left to low ball free agents and lose out on them.

Edited by Datsyukian-Deke, 28 July 2014 - 06:08 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:11 PM

I wouldn't go that far...the cap will go up again and we prolly won't re-sign Andersson. Smith and Jurco I don't see getting what Tatar just got. Nyquist will be the only one getting decent money. We will still have cap space left to low ball free agents and lose out on them.

 

Yea I don't see why they'd re-sign Andersson. If anything, he'd be put in a package first, although I doubt that'd net us very much in return. 


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:11 PM

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:51 PM

Little higher then what I was thinking. But I agree it's a good deal for both sides.





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