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#21 GMRwings1983

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:25 PM

Larionov. I don't know that he was "under appreciated" per se, but I feel like he had such a fantastic mind and hockey sense while not being the most physically skilled, or strongest, or fastest, etc. He could read a play and position himself a step ahead every time.

 

He's always going to be unappreciated by North American audiences, because they didn't see him play in the NHL in his prime.  Same thing as Fetisov.  


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 12:09 AM

The master of deflections guy gave his body for this team and was a huge part of our former dangerous pp

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 12:26 AM

The master of deflections guy gave his body for this team and was a huge part of our former dangerous pp


Not only that but he also showed something that can't be graded by any scouts. That's true heart and determination. He wasn't a good player in terms of typical hockey skills like skating but his will to be great overcame that.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:27 AM

Nicklas Lidstrom.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:31 AM

Nicklas Lidstrom.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:58 AM

Konstantonov got screwed out of at least one and probably more Norrises because he was Russian. If he'd been from Medicine Hat or Saskatoon the media would have loved him. Until this last contract Bertuzzi was pretty underrated. He got around 40 points, played the best 2way hockey of his career, and could stop some of the nonsense.

Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country's refusal to accept him, well, I guess that's more than most 21-year-olds can handle... Ogie Ogilthorpe!


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:19 AM

Almost any starting goaltender.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:26 AM

Rafalski.  He did it all...and did it all at a world class level.  Unfortunately, as so happens when you play with one  of the best ever at a particular position, he was often overshadowed by Nick.  I also think Nick learned a lot from him on the blue line in terms of offense.  I have seen very few "skate the line" with the puck like Rafalski did.  At the beginning of his term with us, he was much better at this than Nick.  His lateral movement with the puck at the blue line to find a shooting lane was second to none.  As a result, Nick soon became much improved at this, and eventually you'd have to say that they were equally as good.  But Rafalski was underrated in my opinion.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:43 AM

Larry Murphy


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:58 AM

Larry Murphy


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 12:08 PM

Holmstrom is the obvious choice. Another one is Rafalski. He also added a dimension to the formerly-great PP. 

 

Also, my pick, Kirk Maltby. 

 

He was a GREAT PK-er, grinder, and the best pest the Wings ever had. 


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 01:06 PM

Rafalski.  He did it all...and did it all at a world class level.  Unfortunately, as so happens when you play with one  of the best ever at a particular position, he was often overshadowed by Nick.  I also think Nick learned a lot from him on the blue line in terms of offense.  I have seen very few "skate the line" with the puck like Rafalski did.  At the beginning of his term with us, he was much better at this than Nick.  His lateral movement with the puck at the blue line to find a shooting lane was second to none.  As a result, Nick soon became much improved at this, and eventually you'd have to say that they were equally as good.  But Rafalski was underrated in my opinion.

 

I thought about Rafalksi.  A great example of a whipping boy that suddenly got missed when he left.  The powerplay really missed Rafalski.  

 

Konstantonov got screwed out of at least one and probably more Norrises because he was Russian. If he'd been from Medicine Hat or Saskatoon the media would have loved him. Until this last contract Bertuzzi was pretty underrated. He got around 40 points, played the best 2way hockey of his career, and could stop some of the nonsense.

 

Just curious, what years would you have given him the Norris for?  You say at least one, and probably more.

 

He never scored 40 points in any season, and this was in an era were goals were more prevalent than later years.  I realize there's more to defending than scoring points, but you're not going to win a Norris trophy if you can't hit 40 points.  That's why he didn't win one.  Not because he's not from Canada or the US. 


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 01:09 PM

In my mind Konstantinov would have been legendary had that tragedy not occurred.

And we'd be looking at the Leafs in the rear view for Cup wins.  He was THAT good.  Stevens and Niedermayer while great could not hold the jocks of Lids and Vladdy and that's saying something.  We all love a good Kronwalling, but those are bumps compared to what Vladdy dished out.  Man he could hit.  And for some reason, he scored breakaway goals.  Pure awesomeness. 

 

He would also be my pick.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 02:58 PM

How has no one yet mentioned Andreas "Iron Jaw" Lilja. We're still trying to replace him ... oh, wait, we already replaced him with Kyle Quincey. Never mind. 

 

On a serious note, and avoiding the obvious choices, I'd go with Martin Lapointe. One of the last punishing body-checking forwards Detroit had in the line-up before signing Drake in '08. Since then...



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:28 PM

How has no one yet mentioned Andreas "Iron Jaw" Lilja. We're still trying to replace him ... oh, wait, we already replaced him with Kyle Quincey. Never mind. 

 

On a serious note, and avoiding the obvious choices, I'd go with Martin Lapointe. One of the last punishing body-checking forwards Detroit had in the line-up before signing Drake in '08. Since then...

 

Same Andreas Lilja who TKO'd this guy back on November 20, 2008?

 

 

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Or the same Andreas Lilja who made this guy s*** his pants back on November 27, 2008?  (greatest picture ever)

 

 

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Or the same Andreas Lilja who made Patrick Sharp.................OK you get the point.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:59 PM

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 05:39 PM

Homer was also very smart.  He was not a great hockey player but was smart enough to know how to leave his mark on the game.  Too bad more players haven't learned from him.



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:01 PM

I don't understand why is Homer considered under-appreciated/unsung by many. Iam sure everyone knows and agrees that he was one of the most valuable Red Wings. Every game that he played he was mentioned and talked about by commentators and hockey analysts as being the best at what he does. They are still talking about him. I thing he is very appreciated and sung. There is no shortage of players falling in to this category, but certainly not Holmstrom.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:15 PM

I change my vote to Lilja

 

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 06:59 PM

 

Same Andreas Lilja who TKO'd this guy back on November 20, 2008?

 

 

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Or the same Andreas Lilja who made this guy s*** his pants back on November 27, 2008?  (greatest picture ever)

 

 

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Or the same Andreas Lilja who made Patrick Sharp.................OK you get the point.

TKO? I don't know about that. Lucky punch that grazed the helmet is more like it, but I'll give it to Lilja. And props to him for defending his teammate, but that fight against Phaneuf was a whole lot of nothing. No, I'm talking about the Lilja who got his ass handed to him in about 80% of his fights. Don't get me wrong, I respect Lilja for being willing to drop the gloves, especially in the post-Bowman Wings era, but simply put, he was not a good fighter. But this is not even worth arguing about.  







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