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#21 Carman

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 10:58 AM

Really like it, our farm system has never looked better. The last few years haven't been ideal, but our playoff streak is still intact and Ken Holland is the reason. There isn't a franchise in the league that never has a few average seasons between great ones. His legacy is going on the line here though, if this team struggles and wastes the last few years of Dats/Zetterberg there aren't going to be fans lining up to reminding us of the 3 Stanley Cups we won with him and having the best team in the league from 1997-2010 which is unfortunate. Time will tell if Ken Holland has a master plan with this franchise, or if he's just meddling his last years in mediocrity hoping his past success will be his legacy.

 

My thoughts are you never know what you have until it's gone, and for me I think that rings true for Holland. Fans in Detroit have incredible expectations, which is understood, but I don't know of many hockey GM's in the history of the league that could satisfy this fan bases appetite of not only winning, but winning Stanley Cups for over 20 years. Notice I said the history of the league, I don't think there is a better option for the team right now other than Holland, he knows the players we have in the system, if our goal is to win it all soon he gives us our best option. If we want to tank, and surely waste the last years of Datsyuk/Zetterberg, and hopefully build up to a playoff franchise in 5 years then we should get a young GM and give him the reigns, I just don't think that's that right plan.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 10:58 AM

 

You're right....being a GM is as easy as NHL 14 makes it out to be, what was I thinking?

It's real easy if you choose to do absolutely nothing.

 

Being an active GM on the other hand is incredibly hard.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:07 AM

Just when I thought the off season couldn't get any worse... At least Tatar is locked up

#24 frankgrimes

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:15 AM

Just when I thought the off season couldn't get any worse... At least Tatar is locked up


Hold your breath it still isn't over and Danny still hasn't re-signed with the team so it can still go downhill :-(
this off season is not over yet and I'm extremely worried.but one thing it's for sure this has been the most challenging one since almost two decades.

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#25 turbowhistle86

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:18 AM

It's real easy if you choose to do absolutely nothing.

 

Being an active GM on the other hand is incredibly hard.

 

Its not like the guy scheduled a two week vacation to the moon and skipped free agency the last few years.  There's plenty of info that suggests he kicked a ton of tires, made several intriguing offers, and in most cases those players chose not to come here for various reasons.  He's not soley to blame for our recent downturn.  You don't lose people like Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Osgood and replace them all right away...in some cases you may never be able to replace talent like that.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:21 AM

 

Its not like the guy scheduled a two week vacation to the moon and skipped free agency the last few years.  There's plenty of info that suggests he kicked a ton of tires, made several intriguing offers, and in most cases those players chose not to come here for various reasons.  He's not soley to blame for our recent downturn.  You don't lose people like Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Osgood and replace them all right away...in some cases you may never be able to replace talent like that.

But do you lose players like Lidström, Rafalski and Stuart over several years and still do absolutely nothing to bolster the defense?

 

We should thank our lucky stars that hometown DeKeyser fell into Holland's lap or our defense would be an absolute s***fest.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:23 AM

Honestly, I'm disappointed.  
 
Holland has pretty clearly run out of ideas these last few seasons, so I don't have a lot of hope for significant changes to rebuild the franchise over the next 4 years.  
 
Who knows though. Maybe he'll finally realize the crap he's done lately isn't working? Maybe??  
 
 
If I were Babcock I'd start looking to other teams.


Babs can sit back and let the teams come find him....

As for Holland, I am over him...
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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:37 AM

Hold your breath it still isn't over and Danny still hasn't re-signed with the team so it can still go downhill :-( this off season is not over yet and I'm extremely worried.but one thing it's for sure this has been the most challenging one since almost two decades.

 

Plenty RFA's around the league haven't signed yet. It's absolutely nothing to be worried about.


When it comes to Holland, who exactly are you all hoping we were going to replace him with???


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#29 turbowhistle86

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:38 AM

But do you lose players like Lidström, Rafalski and Stuart over several years and still do absolutely nothing to bolster the defense?

 

We should thank our lucky stars that hometown DeKeyser fell into Holland's lap or our defense would be an absolute s***fest.

 

 

KFQ!



#30 frankgrimes

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:45 AM


Hold your breath it still isn't over and Danny still hasn't re-signed with the team so it can still go downhill :-( this off season is not over yet and I'm extremely worried.but one thing it's for sure this has been the most challenging one since almost two decades.


 
Plenty RFA's around the league haven't signed yet. It's absolutely nothing to be worried about.
When it comes to Holland, who exactly are you all hoping we were going to replace him with???


Chiarelli guy knows how to build a team and the Bruins fans aren't happy with him

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#31 Son of a Wing

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:47 AM

In Kenny We Trust


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#32 number9

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:51 AM

Chiarelli guy knows how to build a team and the Bruins fans aren't happy with him

 

That does not mean he's going to be fired at all lol. Red Wings fans HATE Holland right now and the guy just got an extension. Why? Because 99% of fans are blithering idiots who can't see past the next immediate season, so I'm sure the organization really couldn't care less what we think.

 

EDIT: There's no option available better than Holland


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#33 frankgrimes

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:59 AM


Chiarelli guy knows how to build a team and the Bruins fans aren't happy with him


 
That does not mean he's going to be fired at all lol. Red Wings fans HATE Holland right now and the guy just got an extension. Why? Because 99% of fans are blithering idiots who can't see past the next immediate season, so I'm sure the organization really couldn't care less what we think.
 
EDIT: There's no option available better than Holland


Blank cheques can make things happen ask Anaheim and Toronto about that. Four years before we could have had the captain and I also don't understand Holland does he really not see t hat the game has changed? Why is he so willing to tarnish his legacy?

I think he would be better served as Vice president just my mind

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 12:19 PM

4 years!? Wow. May need to hibernate in the meantime - its getting pretty lame hearing Holland's excuses every offseason. 


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 12:20 PM

 

Its not like the guy scheduled a two week vacation to the moon and skipped free agency the last few years.  There's plenty of info that suggests he kicked a ton of tires, made several intriguing offers, and in most cases those players chose not to come here for various reasons.  He's not soley to blame for our recent downturn.  You don't lose people like Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Osgood and replace them all right away...in some cases you may never be able to replace talent like that.

 

Holland's job is extremely difficult but all that matters are the actual results, not how many tires he kicked. 

 

Dan Cleary tries as hard or harder than anyone on the team but I don't see people giving him a free pass because of all the plays he tried to make but failed.

 

And Holland should have been working on a transition plan for Lidstrom's retirement for years.  Him participating in the ridiculous Suter sweepstakes was a pretty good indication that he didn't have one.  The reality is you don't replace Nick Lidstrom.  You have to reevaluate and restructure the entire team.  Holland keeps making moves like it's 2008.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 12:38 PM

I'm so happy! I love mediocrity!!! Four year of barely making the playoffs with no trades or freer agent signings!!! Yessssssssssssssssssssss

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 12:42 PM

I'm ok with this.


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#38 gcom007

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:00 PM

Best signing yet. Hollands offseason acquisition is himself. His deadline acquisition will be Babs.

 

Laughed so hard at this. Can't stop. Post of the week for sure.


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#39 rick zombo

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:01 PM

I'm ok with this.

 

For the record, I am ok with this too.


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:10 PM

 
That does not mean he's going to be fired at all lol. Red Wings fans HATE Holland right now and the guy just got an extension. Why? Because 99% of fans are blithering idiots who can't see past the next immediate season, so I'm sure the organization really couldn't care less what we think.
 
EDIT: There's no option available better than Holland


Thanks for calling me a blithering idiot :) it's not just missing out on fa's it's also stuff like bringing Cleary back twice, quincey, Sammy, among others. Holland can't let go, and that in turn helps free agents decisions to not want to come here. If he was building a team that would be good in the future I would be ok with him, but he constantly brings in guys who are useless to our team, and I've had enough. I've defended him for several years now, enough is enough





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