3 Training Camp Squads named

[HockeytownRules19 902]

Looks like Mantha will skate with Datsyuk and Helm

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/09/detroit_red_wings_divide_66-ma.html#incart_river

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

Zetterberg definitely has the best linemates...

[number9 3,297]

Are we giving Aaron Rome a tryout?

These rosters say a few things to me.

Kronwall and Ericsson are likely sticking together again. Smith and Quincey as well.

Jurco is separated from the kid line in favor of Nyquist, which may mean he'll be starting in GR.

I see a Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha/Jurco line forming.

Weiss is grouped with a buncha kids and Abdelkader. I don't know if that's good or bad. I'm thinking the idea is give him a big veteran leadership role early on to build confidence.

Idk about forward lines, but I see the defensive pairings shaking out pretty much exactly like last season

Kronwall - Ericsson

Smith - Quincey

Dekeyser - Kindl

Lashoff

[GoWings1905 2,694]

The Quincey/Smith pairing has never worked and Babs just keeps reverting back to it if that is the case again. Smith needs someone that allows him to jump into plays and be more active offensively. He played his best hockey by far with Kronwall as his partner last season. I don't care so much if the Wings leave Kronwall and E together, but at least play Smith with DeKeyser.

Quincey on the third pairing with whichever other mistake is necessary or ideally Marchenko/Ouellet instead.

Edited September 18, 2014 by GoWings1905

[number9 3,297]

The Quincey/Smith pairing has never worked and Babs just keeps reverting back to it if that is the case again. Smith needs someone that allows him to jump into plays and be more active offensively. He played his best hockey by far with Kronwall as his partner last season. I don't care so much if the Wings leave Kronwall and E together, but at least play Smith with DeKeyser.

Quincey on the third pairing with whichever other mistake is necessary or ideally Marchenko/Ouellet instead.

Q and D are both defensive Dmen. I highly doubt D is going to suddenly re-energize Smith's O game because of his slightly better defensive abilities.

Any D-man on this team would excel with Kronwall ad their partner. Smith is not some strange exception. Lashoff would suddenly look lightyears better with Nik.

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Q and D are both defensive Dmen. I highly doubt D is going to suddenly re-energize Smith's O game because of his slightly better defensive abilities.

Any D-man on this team would excel with Kronwall ad their partner. Smith is not some strange exception. Lashoff would suddenly look lightyears better with Nik.

DeKeyser is much better defensively and moves the puck well too. Lashoff doesn't have the slightest ounce of offensive ability -- that's just pure hyperbole and doesn't take into account the massive difference in skill between Smith and Lashoff.

Every time Smith and Quincey have played together, it has failed miserably as a pairing. Smith was the Wings best d-man during the Boston series and has the potential to contribute more offensively if the Wings allow him to do so, which would be wise since they got nothing from that standpoint a season ago. Restricting Smith to Quincey again isn't going to help Smith's development.

If you aren't a fan of DeKeyser with Smith, then put DeKeyser with E instead and let Smith go with Kronwall.

[number9 3,297]

DeKeyser is much better defensively and moves the puck well too. Lashoff doesn't have the slightest ounce of offensive ability -- that's just pure hyperbole and doesn't take into account the massive difference in skill between Smith and Lashoff.

Every time Smith and Quincey have played together, it has failed miserably as a pairing. Smith was the Wings best d-man during the Boston series and has the potential to contribute more offensively if the Wings allow him to do so, which would be wise since they got nothing from that standpoint a season ago. Restricting Smith to Quincey again isn't going to help Smith's development.

If you aren't a fan of DeKeyser with Smith, then put DeKeyser with E instead and let Smith go with Kronwall.

My point is: Everyone is better with Kronwall, Kronwall is awesome.

People act like Smith could be become awesome, and if he would only play with Kronwall that would happen. But that's the thing, he's only good when he's playing with Kronwall.

Dekeyser is good. But so is Ericsson. You might as well pair Smith with Ericsson. Dekeyser is not a great puck mover by any means, he's decent and he has a good slap shot which is about it, he's a defensively minded player. Just like Ericsson.

Switching out Q and D is not going to suddenly make our D better, in fact it will probably just look the same.

Pushing an offensive minded guy like Smith with another guy with somehwat of an O mind only hurts ur second pairing IMO. Cause then your second pairing is Q-D-E ALL DEFENSIVE GUYS. No balance there.

[blind 0]

Are we giving Aaron Rome a tryout?

These rosters say a few things to me.

Kronwall and Ericsson are likely sticking together again. Smith and Quincey as well.

Jurco is separated from the kid line in favor of Nyquist, which may mean he'll be starting in GR.

I see a Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha/Jurco line forming.

Weiss is grouped with a buncha kids and Abdelkader. I don't know if that's good or bad. I'm thinking the idea is give him a big veteran leadership role early on to build confidence.

Idk about forward lines, but I see the defensive pairings shaking out pretty much exactly like last season

Kronwall - Ericsson

Smith - Quincey

Dekeyser - Kindl

Lashoff

With team Delvecchio, I Agree with you that it definitely seems like Mantha and Jurco are going to get a shot with Datsyuk and Helm. It also seems like they are going to see if Andersson can be a good play making pivot with a couple skilled wingers in Pulky and whomever doesn’t play with 13. They also seem to have the 3rd D pairing in this group and that it seems like they are giving Marchenko a chance to take Kindl or Lashoff’s spot to play with DK.

With team Howe, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are challenging Cleary with AA to play with Z and Franzen. Blashill seems to think the world of AA, maybe even enough to see if he can stick on a scoring line in the bigs as with Mantha. They have the grinder line with a combination of Miller/Glendening/Callahan/(either Cleary or AA). If AA isn’t ready, he’ll probably fill in with the GR line of Frk/Nosek/Tvrdon. I think it’s also interesting they have Sproul with this D group. I’d guess they want to give the kid a shot with either Kronner or E and if he isn’t ready to play in the top 4, he’ll most likely be in GR.

With team Lindsey, I agree that this may be the most interesting juggling of forwards to see if they can shake out a 2nd/3rd line. I’d think the onus is on Abby and Weiss, 2 players who really don’t have a defined role on the team. Weiss for the reason we don’t know what his game is like with 2 years of injury. The boards definitely have a wide range of opinion on what Abby is eventhough Babs probably see him as a flexible player. My guess is the line will be Nyquist/Sheahan/Tatar to start, with Weiss pushing Sheahan and Abby pushing Tatar to see if they can make a scoring line. The other 2 left out will combine to Ferraro as a checking line for now. I wouldn’t put the D pair as Smith and Quincy right away. I can see mixing Ouellet and Beckman in there to see if they can stick as a top 4 as well.

In terms of D, Marchenko may the only one they are willing to bring up at as 6th D where as they want the other 3 (Sproul, Ouellet, Beckman) to take a top 4 job or it’s back to GR to play tons of minutes.

From the reading way too much into the lineup corner, they are definitely looking to create competition. Either way, will be interesting camp.

Edited September 18, 2014 by blind

[Ekmanc 586]

Reminds me of the old adage.

Who is the second best defenseman in Detroit? Whoever is playing with #5...

[Guest DeGraa55]

Except everyone except Quincey played better when paired with smith(including kronwall).

So it's not just a one way thing they both elevated eachother and more reason to keep them as the number one pairing!!!!!!

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

Except everyone except Quincey played better when paired with smith(including kronwall).

So it's not just a one way thing they both elevated eachother and more reason to keep them as the number one pairing!!!!!!

Everyone says Smith played better because of kronwall, I'm not going to argue with that, but my question is who played better and elevated their game more with kronwall, I thought that Smith-kronwall was our best d pairing all year.

[nawein 324]

I thought kronner and dk were our best last year.

[Nyquistfan14 489]

I'd be fine with

Smith- kronner

Dekeyser-big E

Quincey- one of the kids.

Or

Dekeyser- kronner

Big E- smith

Same

[krsmith17 7,191]

Why not go with some already proven chemistry but more importantly balance...

I don't want to see our two most offensive players on one pairing and our two most defensive players on the other, it just doesn't make sense...

Kronwall - Ericsson

DeKeyser - Smith

Quincey - (Kindl / Marchenko / Backman / Ouellet / Sproul)

Lashoff

[martinezsvsu 240]

Zetterberg definitely has the best linemates...

i thought his team was by far the worst

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

They are, I was just being a sarcastic *******

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[martinezsvsu 240]

They are, I was just being a sarcastic *******

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lol ok good. i wasnt sure if u were just a huge mule fan or something

[BottleOfSmoke 5,965]

huge mule fan

About as common as the Loch Ness monster (good luck today Scotland!).

[martinezsvsu 240]

i could have said cleary

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

My point is: Everyone is better with Kronwall, Kronwall is awesome.

People act like Smith could be become awesome, and if he would only play with Kronwall that would happen. But that's the thing, he's only good when he's playing with Kronwall.

Dekeyser is good. But so is Ericsson. You might as well pair Smith with Ericsson. Dekeyser is not a great puck mover by any means, he's decent and he has a good slap shot which is about it, he's a defensively minded player. Just like Ericsson.

Switching out Q and D is not going to suddenly make our D better, in fact it will probably just look the same.

Pushing an offensive minded guy like Smith with another guy with somehwat of an O mind only hurts ur second pairing IMO. Cause then your second pairing is Q-D-E ALL DEFENSIVE GUYS. No balance there.

Wasn't Dekeyser's first pass highly touted? I thought that was one of the big pros with him. Not arguing for or against your other points, just curious if I'm remembering wrong. I'll wait and see how Smith does with whoever he's paired with. I'd like to think that he'll take the next step and play well wherever now. If not though I did really like him paired with Kronwall, thought they played great together.