We're Down One Goose

[wings_fanatic 677]

The last two seasons in a row, the Wings were among the league leaders in man games lost.

And not just that, they have been KEY players such as Pav, Hank, Alfie, Franzen, Weiss, Ericsson, Dekeyser, Howard. We have been VERY unlucky with injuries the last couple years I think the Hockeygods owe us this year,

[gcom007 1,465]

Everything should be fine. Injuries happen, especially in the pre-season, and given that it's the pre-season, far more care is taken in dealing with them so they might appear far more worse than they are. I get that everyone's sensitive after the last couple years, but this isn't worth getting too worked up about at this point.

If half the team is injured again by December, then we can all collectively weep and bemoan our fate.

[martinezsvsu 240]

no offense to hakan andersson but our team is full of soft euros

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

The last two seasons in a row, the Wings were among the league leaders in man games lost.

Yeah, i know. I was talking more to the reaction to the injuries so far this year.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

I think it has something to do with practice...

Think about it: the Wings practice against the Wings - we aren't an overly physical team and in practice we would be even less physical than in a game. If you practice going to the dirty areas and into the corners over and over again in practice without any physical impact when you get to a game situation you do the same but get destroyed. I think our players are just generally not totally expecting huge impacts - look at Sproul, Datsyuk recently who were surprised by hits they typically wouldn't expect from practicing against a soft Wings team.

Do you really thin that other teams run each other in practice? Hits in practice lead to more injuries, not fewer.

[kliq 3,755]

Do you really thin that other teams run each other in practice? Hits in practice lead to more injuries, not fewer.

LOL, only here would this even have to be said.

I get that this freaking out over a few minor injuries is simply a conditioned response to the past few years. But at the end of the day, we have only had 1 real injury which was to Datsyuk, and it should only keep him out around 4 weeks. Its not like Zetterberg broke his leg, Datsyuk tore his ACL, and Howard suffered a hernia. People are getting worked up over nothing.

I also don't think that Colton Orr (or someone like him) is the savior for this team. You have a guy like that, people still will hit our our top guys, someone will just also fight Orr afterwards. Its the NHL, guys who hit are going to hit regardless of who is on the other team. If people were scared to fight guys like Orr, they wouldn't be fighting so much.

People have referenced Darren McCarty. Its not like having McCarty stopped Lemieux from smashing Draper face into the boards, all it did was create many fights afterwards. Having Todd Bertuzzi and co. did not stop Steve Moore from throwing an elbow at Marcus Naslund's head, it just led to a fight, and obviously the incident. Philly being one of the toughest teams in the NHL did not stop Scott Stevens from knocking out Lindros over and over again. My point is, guys are going to hit. I dont believe having Orr or someone like him on the Wings would have stopped the hit on Datsyuk, or other normal hits being thrown.

Edited September 29, 2014 by kliq

[CMatt89 63]

The years of buy the team to win history has to be followed by hardships developing a team through draft. Sometimes we just gotta take life as it comes. Enjoy the hockey, respect the fact that the draftees helped get them to a 23rd consecutive playoff appearance. Us as fans have to accept that another dead wings era is inevitable.

From another angle, look at the wings staff. The majority has had with, or moved on to a greater career. Detroit is the Harvard or yale of hockey minds. I have no doubt that the wings owner, gm, coach, and everyone else involed, are building another sport wide model team. Doing so without missing the playoffs, should say enough.

[krsmith17 7,191]

kliq - Well said. Completely agree with both points. People are completely overreacting to these injuries.

Like you said, the only significant injury was to Datsyuk and even that isn't all that bad. He will miss maybe the first few games of the season, it isn't an injury to his knee again so he can still skate and keep in game shape. He will be fine.

Nyquist hurt his knee the other night, but he is saying he's okay, so until I hear otherwise, he will be fine.

Helm pulled his groin, it's preseason, not the first time and definitely won't be the last time a groin is pulled in September / October. Now if we're still seeing them in December, there's a problem.

Mantha was never going to make the team out of camp anyway, so like I asked before, would people be going this crazy if it had been Pulkkinen that suffered the same injury? I doubt it.

Sproul, another guy that had no chance in making the team out of training camp, got a nasty hit from behind (that should have been a penalty...), he's feeling a lot better and will likely be ready to go for game one on the 10th against the Monsters.

I love physical play as much as the next guy but an enforcer is not what this team needs. If we can get a guy that is more willing to drop the gloves and can still play solid defense, kill penalties and chip in a little offensively, by all means, I would welcome this guy. But where is he? Maybe McKee will develop his game enough to play in the NHL... Doubtful, but if he could become a great shut down guy at the NHL level, I would love to have that mean son of a ***** on our forth line standing up for our guys. But like so many people have said, no enforcer is going to prevent injuries. Guys are still going to take runs at other players, that will never change...

[rrasco 1,312]

So does anyone know how this injury actually happened? I know it was knee on knee, but was it malicious or anything? Remember that year Orpik took out Franzen's knee?

[Fred_Bear 8]

So does anyone know how this injury actually happened? I know it was knee on knee, but was it malicious or anything? Remember that year Orpik took out Franzen's knee?

I'm interested to know more details as well. I haven't even heard who he collided with...

[amato 3,210]

"They're bigger! They're stronger! They're faster! They've got more facial hair!"

With Zette in the lineup, I find this part hard to believe..

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

So does anyone know how this injury actually happened? I know it was knee on knee, but was it malicious or anything? Remember that year Orpik took out Franzen's knee?

I completely missed it. I saw him immediately after the collision limping towards the bench but missed the collision itself.

[Echolalia 2,961]

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/09/red_wings_gustav_nyquist_knee.html

Sounds like it wasn't malicious. Just an unfortunate result of the play. Nyquist says he won't miss any of the regular season though, for what that's worth