Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

[rick zombo 3,739]

Datsyuk back to gray Jersey per Khan

Lines this morning

Franzen-Zetterberg-Abdelkader

Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco

Nestrasil-Helm-Nyquist

Miller-Glendening-Andersson

Kronwall-Ericsson

DeKeyser-Smith

Quincey-Ouellet

Lashoff-Kindl

Looks like this Ouellett think is for real.

Also, that's an interesting 3rd line.

Also, still no Weiss.

[krsmith17 7,191]

Lines at practice today:

Franzen-Zetterberg-Abdelkader

Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco

Nestrasil-Helm-Nyquist

Andersson-Glendening-Miller

Grey Jerseys

Cleary-Datsyuk-Weiss

Defense Pairings:

Kronwall-Ericsson

DeKeyser-Smith

Quincey-Ouellet

Lashoff-Kindl

I really hope they stick with those pairings to start the season and trade Kindl for a pick or something...

[HockeytownRules19 902]

Interesting

Chuck Pleiness @wingsfrontman · now 29 seconds ago

Nestrasil on the second PP unit at practice. Ouellet on PK with Quincey.

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 26 seconds ago

Ouellet working the PK with Quincey. Nestrasil working on power play. Kindl and Lashoff join possible scratches Cleary, Weiss as PK fill-ins

Edited October 7, 2014 by HockeytownRules19

[wings4thecup06 504]

Looks like this Ouellett think is for real.

Also, that's an interesting 3rd line.

Also, still no Weiss.

True. But this means they're definitely going to have to trade someone or put someone on IR in the next 5 hours if they want Ouellet to stay.

So its either, trade Kindl or Lashoff

Or, put one of the guys in grey (minus Datsyuk, who's already going to be on short term IR) - which means either Cleary or Weiss.

Interesting

Chuck Pleiness @wingsfrontman · now 29 seconds ago

Nestrasil on the second PP unit at practice. Ouellet on PK with Quincey.

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 26 seconds ago

Ouellet working the PK with Quincey. Nestrasil working on power play. Kindl and Lashoff join possible scratches Cleary, Weiss as PK fill-ins

Something definitely has to give here. Big time.

[HockeytownRules19 902]

In a stunning development lol... Monster looks to be hurt

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 37 seconds ago

Mrazek has a net to himself as Gustavsson looks on. Gustavsson apparently tweaked his knee on Friday and might not be ready for opener.

well maybe not.... KHAAAN ha

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 5 seconds ago

Now Gustavsson back in net as Mrazek stands on the side.

Edited October 7, 2014 by HockeytownRules19

[HockeytownRules19 902]

Info on the PP

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 9 seconds ago

Power play units: Franzen-Zetterberg-Nyquist-Helm-Kronwall and Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco-Nestrasil-DeKeyser.

[kipwinger 8,520]

Info on the PP

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 9 seconds ago

Power play units: Franzen-Zetterberg-Nyquist-Helm-Kronwall and Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco-Nestrasil-DeKeyser.

What the hell kind of power play units are those? Helm? Nestrasil? Jesus. I hope they see something I don't.

[rick zombo 3,739]

Info on the PP

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 9 seconds ago

Power play units: Franzen-Zetterberg-Nyquist-Helm-Kronwall and Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco-Nestrasil-DeKeyser.

4 F, 1 D on each unit. Interesting.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Only one defensman per power play unit, and no Smith or Oulette, but we do see Helm and Nestrasil.

They're really going all in on this 1-3-1 it seems, with only one defender per line.

Edited October 7, 2014 by Echolalia

[rick zombo 3,739]

What the hell kind of power play units are those? Helm? Nestrasil? Jesus. I hope they see something I don't.

Well, they have the right guys up front. Other than Smith or maybe Ouellett, they don't have many options on the back end.

My guess is that Helm is on there to use his speed as another option for zone entry (rather than dump-chase or pass) and Nestrasil might be a good net-front guy. He had a nice PP deflection against Boston.

Edited October 7, 2014 by rick zombo

[kipwinger 8,520]

Well, they have the right guys up front. Other than Smith or maybe Ouellett, they don't have many options on the back end.

My guess is that Helm is on there to use his speed as another option for zon entry (rather than dump-chase or pass) and Nestrasil might be a good net-front guy. He had a nice PP deflection against Boston.

I hope so. I guess I have to give them the benefit of the doubt for now. I just can't help but think they're grasping at straws. Like when they put Hudler on the PP point. Or Eaves. Or Alfie. Or Sammy.

[Bannedforlife 403]

Weiss will be playing this week and as long as he is put with a couple decent linemates he will produce. He will be fine.

I don't think Datsyuk will be playing the first few games, but once he gets back he will be back to his same old magic.

Side note: Am I the only one who tries to picture what some people look and act like outside of this site? I have a lot of people pegged, whether I'm right or not, I'll probably never know... Either way, it entertains me to see some people act so childish on here, I can only assume that some of them are still children, but you never know...

This is what I imagine most of you look like...

[Echolalia 2,961]

My guess is that Helm is on there to use his speed as another option for zone entry (rather than dump-chase or pass)

Actually that's an interesting thought. Helm might be able to back the defenders off the blue line a bit.

[rick zombo 3,739]

I hope so. I guess I have to give them the benefit of the doubt for now. I just can't help but think they're grasping at straws. Like when they put Hudler on the PP point. Or Eaves. Or Alfie. Or Sammy.

Hell, I'm just happy that Cleary,Bert, and Samuelsson are nowhere to be found on either of these units. Unlike game 1 last year. For now, you won't hear me complain - not a peep.

[kipwinger 8,520]

Actually that's an interesting thought. Helm might be able to back the defenders off the blue line a bit.

In theory. But if Helm were any good at that then his offensive production would be significantly higher than it is. The fact is, so far, Helm's speed has not translated into much offensive productivity. I'm not really sure why he seems to be the guy Babs is counting on to fill holes in the offense.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just see Abby all over again. "Well, put him alongside Datsyuk and he'll score just fine...". *facepalm*

[rrasco 1,312]

In a stunning development lol... Monster looks to be hurt

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 37 seconds ago

Mrazek has a net to himself as Gustavsson looks on. Gustavsson apparently tweaked his knee on Friday and might not be ready for opener.

well maybe not.... KHAAAN ha

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · now 5 seconds ago

Now Gustavsson back in net as Mrazek stands on the side.

And this one just confused me....

The Wheel Deal ‏@Bill_Roose

#RedWings Gustavsson is now getting reps at far end of rink, usually signifying No. 1 goalie status. Howard is the 2 hole as Mrazek watches.

[cnot19 191]

I really do not like dekeyser on the power play not a strength of his at all

[kipwinger 8,520]

I really do not like dekeyser on the power play not a strength of his at all

That's the beauty of it. The Detroit Red Wings don't worry about playing to people's strengths. As a matter of fact, in our system, players don't have strengths. Anybody is just as good as anybody else, at any position. Don't t you get it? It's impossible to key on any one player when you use all the players on your team in the exact same way. Brilliant.

[number9 3,297]

DeKeyser has a pretty big bomb. Not that surprised he's on the PP

Edited October 7, 2014 by number9

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

DeKeyser has a pretty big bomb. Not that surprised he's on the PP

At least it's an upgrade over kindl still

[hooon 1,089]

I like the d-pairings all things considered, and I'm willing to hold my breath on the PP units for a little while.

I just wish they'd switch Nyquist and Abby in those forward lines. I know its all the rage for our brass to vilify players who didn't put up big numbers in the pre-season... but why is Nyquist relegated to the third line with non-offensive linemates?

Can't wait for Datsyuk to be back.

[Echolalia 2,961]

In theory. But if Helm were any good at that then his offensive production would be significantly higher than it is. The fact is, so far, Helm's speed has not translated into much offensive productivity. I'm not really sure why he seems to be the guy Babs is counting on to fill holes in the offense.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just see Abby all over again. "Well, put him alongside Datsyuk and he'll score just fine...". *facepalm*

I think that mostly has to do with his stone hands in front of the net

[wings4thecup06 504]

Well I'd like to think that with XO paired with Quincey in practice today, they're gonna move Lashoff or Kindl. One can only hope right?

Sounds like Nestrasil has made the team according to this:

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/red-wings-mid-day-practice-news-injuries-afoot-krupa-reports-nestrasils-mad

Chuck Pleiness @wingsfrontman · 4m4 minutes ago

Nestrasil avoids another round of cuts as Wings don't place anyone on waivers. Looks like he's made team for now.

Edited October 7, 2014 by wings4thecup06

[Jesusberg 1,256]

I had a feeling they'd go with an extra forward on both PP units. Once Datsyuk's back, I imagine Nyquist gets bumped down a unit. Oh well... hoping Ouellet is still on the team come 5 o'clock.

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Switch Gus with Abby and those forward lines look decent. I hate Z getting stuck with Franzen and Abby. Why is the Wings best player last season getting relegated to the third line?