Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I doubt they'd give up their best player for Weiss, Andersson and Kindl... 2 Rick D and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I think all of these guys would be an upgrade to our blue line, but at what cost? Myers would have to come relatively cheap, and Kindl go the other way for me to be at all interested. Yandle would definitely boost our blueline, but it would certainly be fairly steep so it depends on what had to go the other way. Would love to have him though. I was a huge fan of Bogosian a few years ago but he has fallen off a little. I'd still consider trading for him at the right price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 How about a totally different direction. Weiss, Anderson and Kindl for Hall. Get rid of extra parts to give prospects a chance and get a proven scorer. Heck if you want Petry just add lashoff and if necessary a late round pick Taylor hall? Can't stand his face, and especially his lips. Also he's a huge ******. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I'd love to have Taylor Hall on this team, but that's a massive pipedream if there ever was one... Mantha, Nyquist, Ouellet, first might get the conversation started... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I'd love to have Taylor Hall on this team, but that's a massive pipedream if there ever was one... Mantha, Nyquist, Ouellet, first might get the conversation started... hell no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Are you saying hell no in that you wouldn't do it? (because I obviously wouldn't either...) or that it wouldn't cost that much? Because I think it would cost that (or in that ballpark...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Are you saying hell no in that you wouldn't do it? (because I obviously wouldn't either...) or that it wouldn't cost that much? Because I think it would cost that (or in that ballpark...) hell no as in I wouldn't do it even if they took away my intelligent train of thought........Hall is decent but not worth Goose Mantha or Oullet you have two future top forwards and a legit Top D man no thanks Edited October 14, 2014 by sjr2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Are you saying hell no in that you wouldn't do it? (because I obviously wouldn't either...) or that it wouldn't cost that much? Because I think it would cost that (or in that ballpark...) I've got to disagree with you there buddy. I don't think it would take that much. The last three players of that quality to get traded were Bobby Ryan, Jason Spezza, and Ryan Kesler, and none of them went for that kind of return. Actually, not even close to that really. 1 sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 That's why it's very rare to see top end players traded, especially in their prime or before they even hit their prime. But are you saying you wouldn't trade any one of those guys straight up for Hall? I would trade all three of them individually for Hall but I definitely wouldn't trade that package either. Hall is a point per game player at the age of 22. The only player with that kind of potential is Mantha and even that is uncertain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I've got to disagree with you there buddy. I don't think it would take that much. The last three players of that quality to get traded were Bobby Ryan, Jason Spezza, and Ryan Kesler, and none of them went for that kind of return. Actually, not even close to that really. head on kip if anything I would throw Weiss and kindl toward them for hall only if Weiss is going to waive his NTC because his a bench warmer here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Petry is a healthy scratch tonight and apparently not due to injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Kip, I hear ya, it is definitely a huge package and probably more than they'd be asking for but I don't think by much. I think Hall is and will be a better player than all 3 of those guys. The only one that I think is comparable is Spezza and he is much older as are the other two compared to Hall. Either way, it's a moot point because there is no way Hall is getting moved and especially not the Detroit. Come on, you can't be serious with this Weiss and Kindl talk for Taylor Hall??? MacTavish would laugh hysterically and hang up and then call you back just to laugh some more... 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I've got to disagree with you there buddy. I don't think it would take that much. The last three players of that quality to get traded were Bobby Ryan, Jason Spezza, and Ryan Kesler, and none of them went for that kind of return. Actually, not even close to that really. Yeah, but none of those guys were traded to Detroit. Holland always seems to have to pay more. Based on rumors in the past with Nash, Bouewmeester, and now Myers (Mantha!!) other teams ask for the moon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ash11 78 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Ya confirmed petry is a healthy scratch, not due to injury . Hmmmmm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Yeah, but none of those guys were traded to Detroit. Holland always seems to have to pay more. Based on rumors in the past with Nash, Bouewmeester, and now Myers (Mantha!!) other teams ask for the moon. Of course they ask for first rate players, doesn't mean they expect to get them. That's negotiating. I have a hard time believing that GMs across the league ask for premium prices from Holland, but ask for considerably less from everyone else. Apart from anything else, it's a terrible negotiation strategy because it ensures you'll A) never trade with a team that's renowned for the quality of their prospects, and B) in the event that your player is actually worth a guy like Mantha, you're asking for less than he's worth from 28 other teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Holland going after Yandle and Bogosian? Same crap different year. Phoenix won't part with Yandle until he's 40 or he requests a trade out. Pipe dreams. Maybe that's why he never makes moves. He always tries for the exact same players every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Holland going after Yandle and Bogosian? Same crap different year. Phoenix won't part with Yandle until he's 40 or he requests a trade out. Pipe dreams. Maybe that's why he never makes moves. He always tries for the exact same players every year. Either that or The Fourth Period is just recycling content year after year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Copper and Blue website article about Petry being scratched. Apparently this is pretty unusual. Trouble between Eakins and Petry? Fans seem to consider Petry their best defender, and it sounds like the "no training camp/not up to speed" argument doesn't hold a lot of water. EDIT: We've also been linked to talks about Petry dating back to July, so there's apparently some history. But there are other teams in the mix, if trading him is even being considered by Edmonton. There's been no hints or confirmation about their willingness, just news that teams have inquired. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I don't want KH to touch any of the names being thrown out there. Not that I don't think any of them have value - I'm just worried about the assets being shipped off the other way. It makes sense to move a defensive prospect (since we're, in theory, going to have an abundance of NHL defenders in the near future) and a pick, but I imagine teams are looking for a quality forward as well. The ones teams are going to want (Mantha, Nyquist, Tatar) are the one I don't want to part with at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Praying Mantha Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I'd like to see Meyers swapped for Quincey and Kindl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 I'd like to see Meyers swapped for Quincey and Kindl. Id like to see Cleary and Weiss shipped for Crosby and Malkin 8 DannyD, Jesusberg, krsmith17 and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Id like to see Cleary and Weiss shipped for Crosby and Malkin Hey now it was his 1st post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Hey now it was his 1st post true, moderately ruthless of me! Sorry Mantha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Praying Mantha Report post Posted October 14, 2014 true, moderately ruthless of me! Sorry Mantha No prob! Guess I was dreaming a bit. 2 mvanpop and WingsallTheway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bannedforlife 403 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) In the order that they're listed...Nope. Yep. Nope. Id be interested in myers for the right price. I think hes made some big strides and is going to have a great year.On the other hand, I dont think it makes a lot of sense for buffalo to trade him at this point and will probably want a lot more than id be willing to give up. Edited October 14, 2014 by Bannedforlife Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
