VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 I agree, but I'd take it a step further. Weiss needs to play, and play at center. He's not likely to provide much offensive punch playing a position he's never played professionally, in a system he's still learning. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me. I thought when we acquired him someone mentioned he's played wing before. At any rate, I'd have to imagine it's easier for a center to play wing than a winger to play center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingFanInLA 9 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 For everyone's sake, we need to see if he can play in real games. Even if he wanted to be traded, no one would take him right now. And if the Wings don't want to dump him, they best see how well he can perform. But what the hell, I could be wrong, sit his ass! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 You never know. Weiss has to be fired up and going to throw it all out there if he gets put in the lineup. The guy is playing for his career. I'd love to see him suit up against Toronto. He can atleast provide what Abby has in the top six. Even when Weiss was hurt last year he was good at board battles and face offs and he appeared to be skating better If Cleary dresses before Weiss I'm going to puke 2 Rick D and Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Darren Helm missed a year and a half with injuries and wasn't a healthy scratch once he was healthy. There's not to be more to it than this. Yes but you're comparing apples to oranges. A guy who grew under Babocks tutelage and one who is still relatively a newcomer. This could very well be Babcock showing Weiss, that despite his stature, despite his injury, he must earn every second of ice time. Edited October 17, 2014 by number9 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 I was never a fan of signing another small, left handed forward in his 30's, coming off an injury to boot. He should get more of a shot, only because our current forward crop is garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 I agree, but I'd take it a step further. Weiss needs to play, and play at center. He's not likely to provide much offensive punch playing a position he's never played professionally, in a system he's still learning. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me. I agree with you. I prefer Weiss at center as well should he ever crack the lineup again. I could see Babs giving him a shot and that consisting of getting third line minutes on the wing with Helm and Nestrasil or something. The Wings brought him to Detroit to be a second line center. Another pecuilar coaching decision by Babs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themcityblues 249 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 It's like the Wings signed him for $5 mil and are now actively threatening his NHL career. A guy with a performance record like Weiss and his situation (new team, coming off injury) deserves a shot when he gets healthy. This even makes me emotional. If Weiss isn't out there soon I'm wondering if this staff is morally dignified, let alone if they have any business running a hockey team. Their devising with Weiss makes me think they are bad human beings who suck at running a hockey team. With what they did to Tootoo (sign and dump) and even Samuelsson (sign and dump) I'm nearly tired of being a Wings fan. I'll remain fans of some individual players. It's like the Wings signed him for $5 mil and are now actively threatening his NHL career. A guy with a performance record like Weiss and his situation (new team, coming off injury) deserves a shot when he gets healthy. This even makes me emotional. If Weiss isn't out there soon I'm wondering if this staff is morally dignified, let alone if they have any business running a hockey team. Their devising with Weiss makes me think they are bad human beings who suck at running a hockey team. With what they did to Tootoo (sign and dump) and even Samuelsson (sign and dump) I'm nearly tired of being a Wings fan. I'll remain fans of some individual players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) It's like the Wings signed him for $5 mil and are now actively threatening his NHL career. A guy with a performance record like Weiss and his situation (new team, coming off injury) deserves a shot when he gets healthy. This even makes me emotional. If Weiss isn't out there soon I'm wondering if this staff is morally dignified, let alone if they have any business running a hockey team. Their devising with Weiss makes me think they are bad human beings who suck at running a hockey team. With what they did to Tootoo (sign and dump) and even Samuelsson (sign and dump) I'm nearly tired of being a Wings fan. I'll remain fans of some individual players. It's like the Wings signed him for $5 mil and are now actively threatening his NHL career. A guy with a performance record like Weiss and his situation (new team, coming off injury) deserves a shot when he gets healthy. This even makes me emotional. If Weiss isn't out there soon I'm wondering if this staff is morally dignified, let alone if they have any business running a hockey team. Their devising with Weiss makes me think they are bad human beings who suck at running a hockey team. With what they did to Tootoo (sign and dump) and even Samuelsson (sign and dump) I'm nearly tired of being a Wings fan. I'll remain fans of some individual players. you know call me crazy but I wonder if the reason nest is in the lineup is because for some reason they are trying to bring his value up to package HIM and kindl possible another prospect and a pick for someone? I mean I know that sounds stupid but if Weiss is going to be here for the 5 years his got no reason to play it out right now persay because they want him in the lineup in the future but maybe they want to spice things up a bit by throwing nestersil and kindl Edited October 17, 2014 by sjr2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luvmnger 125 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 i blame the jersey #90 its cursed i tell you...CURSED! 3 sjr2012, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 I'm sure he thought after last season he would be on the opening night roster. He didn't get that benefit of the doubt from Babs. That's what lights fires. Not: it wasn't my fault, I was injured. Darren Helm missed a year and a half with injuries and wasn't a healthy scratch once he was healthy. There's not to be more to it than this. Darren Helm had not showed lack lustre performances like Weiss did, Helm has never had to earn back Babs respect...Heck Weiss hasn't even gotten Babs respect yet to lose it 13dangledangle~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Weiss has been a pure miss for us so far. Sammy, Tootoo, Cleary, Weiss, etc. Holland isn't giving Babs much to work with. I hope Weiss turns it around, but I'm skeptical right now. If you are going to have Cleary on that list, why not have Datsyuk? He was also resigned last year? It's like the Wings signed him for $5 mil and are now actively threatening his NHL career. A guy with a performance record like Weiss and his situation (new team, coming off injury) deserves a shot when he gets healthy. This even makes me emotional. If Weiss isn't out there soon I'm wondering if this staff is morally dignified, let alone if they have any business running a hockey team. Their devising with Weiss makes me think they are bad human beings who suck at running a hockey team. With what they did to Tootoo (sign and dump) and even Samuelsson (sign and dump) I'm nearly tired of being a Wings fan. I'll remain fans of some individual players. For whatever reason Babcock does not want to dress him. I think Babcock has done more then enough to justify coaching a hockey team in the NHL and i'm sure their are reasons behind his decisions that we are not aware of. Every decision a GM or a coach makes is based on a number of variables and the public are only privy to a small amount of those. If Weiss deserves to play, i'm sure he will play. I agree I hope its soon, but im sure there is something we are not aware of. 1 sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Praying Mantha Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Datsyuk was not a miss last year. He still performed while hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Babcock wants players that work hard and play a 200ft game. So far Weiss hasn't done that and Babs told him straightforward what he expects from him. Steve will get his chance he just has to wait and when he does, better be ready for a great game Edited October 17, 2014 by frankgrimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Put him in coach. Franzen-Zetterberg-NyquistTatar-Sheahan-JurcoHelm-Weiss-AbdelkaderMiller-Andersson-Glendening Edited October 17, 2014 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Gotta feel kinda bad for the guy. This is like Tootoo all over again. Holland signs him to a decent enough contract, and he has the potential to contribute positively to the team, but for whatever reason Babcock has some sort of beef with him and flat out refuses to play him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Gotta feel kinda bad for the guy. This is like Tootoo all over again. Holland signs him to a decent enough contract, and he has the potential to contribute positively to the team, but for whatever reason Babcock has some sort of beef with him and flat out refuses to play him. This is generous as Tootoo actually played well and earned a spot unlike Weissy. Every now and then there are players who simply don't fit with a coach & his playing style, this could be one of those times...but I truly hope Weiss gets a shot, then makes the damn thing 13dangledangle~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Internet.Unknown 422 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 This is generous as Tootoo actually played well and earned a spot unlike Weissy. Every now and then there are players who simply don't fit with a coach & his playing style, this could be one of those times...but I truly hope Weiss gets a shot, then makes the damn thing 13dangledangle~ Weissy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 This is generous as Tootoo actually played well and earned a spot unlike Weissy. Every now and then there are players who simply don't fit with a coach & his playing style, this could be one of those times...but I truly hope Weiss gets a shot, then makes the damn thing 13dangledangle~ Weissy? Not a chance. Weissy will be Weissy until he doesn't play like one 13dangledangle~ 1 Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Not a chance. Weissy will be Weissy until he doesn't play like one 13dangledangle~ If you're going to sign every post can you just make it part of your signature so people have a choice to view it? Thanks. Edited October 17, 2014 by Son of a Wing 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Babcock wants players that work hard and play a 200ft game. So far Weiss hasn't done that and Babs wasn't too thrilled with the signing from the get go. Steve will get his chance he just has to wait and when he does, better be ready for a great game When did Babcock say he was not happy with the Weiss signing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Not a chance. Weissy will be Weissy until he doesn't play like one 13dangledangle~ If you're going to sign every post can you just make it part of your signature so people have a choice to view it? Thanks. You can do that? I use tap talk, it used to say "posted using tap talk". I like the dangle better, but nonetheless I'll see what I can do, and until next time... 13dangledangle~ 1 Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Not a chance. Weissy will be Weissy until he doesn't play like one13dangledangle~ Didn't know he was supposed to be a power forward. Also you know, you might let him play first... This is like calling Franzen franzine 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 I say weshould try to find and trade weiss (and pray there's a taker) right now we can say he hasn't had a fair shot and a change of scenery would help .... But if he comes back and tanks again were stuck with him for good (we already might be) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 Not a chance. Weissy will be Weissy until he doesn't play like one13dangledangle~ Didn't know he was supposed to be a power forward. Also you know, you might let him play first... This is like calling Franzen franzine He was indeed suppose to play a hard nose style of hockey, I never said anything let alone "power forward". ...Franzine?! Please he will forever be Franzine around here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted October 17, 2014 He was indeed suppose to play a hard nose style of hockey, I never said anything let alone "power forward". ...Franzine?! Please he will forever be Franzine around here Give him a chance before you write him off... 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
