Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

In there.

Maybe stick with Bieber's lyrics.

Haha. You're right. Didn't know people in Australia knew Bieber as well.

All the more reason to stay away from UFA's.

I hope Kenny doesn't feel that way. We just need a GM who can actually make good moves.

[hillbillywingsfan 792]

Haha. You're right. Didn't know people in Australia knew Bieber as well.

I hope Kenny doesn't feel that way. We just need a GM who can actually make good moves.

Well with Australians having favorite singers like Cody Simpson then it's not a stretch to think they would also love J-Bieb. =)

[canadian wings fan 305]

Ok, what is the real deal here? Seems like every Wings newsfeed I'm reading is reporting something different about Weiss' situation....so he is going on IR or coming up here to play??

[cnot19 191]

This has become comical

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Ok, what is the real deal here? Seems like every Wings newsfeed I'm reading is reporting something different about Weiss' situation....so he is going on IR or coming up here to play??

Detroit for evaluation

[Echolalia 2,961]

Ok, what is the real deal here? Seems like every Wings newsfeed I'm reading is reporting something different about Weiss' situation....so he is going on IR or coming up here to play??

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/10/red_wings_stephen_weiss_wont_p.html

According to this he is returning to Detroit to get his groin reevaluated, and they will go from there.

[gcom007 1,465]

What the what?!?

[Internet.Unknown 422]

All the more reason to stay away from UFA's.

You going to call Holland and let him know because he keeps trying to sign UFA's?

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/10/red_wings_stephen_weiss_wont_p.html

According to this he is returning to Detroit to get his groin reevaluated, and they will go from there.

What if Weiss retires? Was damaged goods when he signed? What are the long term cap repercussions, anyone know?

[Echolalia 2,961]

You going to call Holland and let him know because he keeps trying to sign UFA's?

What if Weiss retires? Was damaged goods when he signed? What are the long term cap repercussions, anyone know?

I'm not the cap-specialist on LGW, although I know there are a few of them here somewhere.

[anthonyn66 89]

Haha. You're right. Didn't know people in Australia knew Bieber as well.

I hope Kenny doesn't feel that way. We just need a GM who can actually make good moves.

Really easy to say that two years forward but I remember when we signed him everyone was freaking out. Made a lot of sense at the time, even the most pessimistic people couldn't have called the situation...

If anything it's a sign that Holland should not sign a free agent center or trade for one. Babcock likes all of his centremen homegrown (Datsyuk Zetterberg Helm Filppula Glendening Sheahan... all came from within the organization) and clearly favours them. It's not just Weiss that got screwed over, you're forgetting that Legwand came in on pace for almost 60 points and finished the season on the fourth line. He was a pretty big part of our playoff push when all of our other centers were injured (yeah yeah kid line I get it they were more important, Nyquist lit it up but also because he played with Legwand). It's probably because Babcock's system has a heavy emphasis on the center and it isn't for everyone. Tough to argue against the results but it's too bad there's so much money being wasted. Glad we have an organization that can afford these kinds of things.

Edited October 30, 2014 by anthonyn66

[GoWings1905 2,694]

All the more reason to stay away from UFA's.

You can't build a championship contender exclusively on draft picks when you are selecting in the 20's every year. The Wings do draft very well and were fortunate Zetterberg and Datsyuk became superstars, but impact players are hard to come by that late in the draft.

Draft well and make smart free agency decisions to complement your internal pieces. Holland has the first part down well and has failed miserably with the latter. He has either spent money poorly on UFA's or struck out in areas of need.

[matthewdanna 143]

The Pat McGroin Memorial Ensemble

[martinezsvsu 240]

ive always been extremely positive with weiss but this is my turning point. weiss was a very bad signing.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

You going to call Holland and let him know because he keeps trying to sign UFA's?

What if Weiss retires? Was damaged goods when he signed? What are the long term cap repercussions, anyone know?

I'm not the cap-specialist on LGW, although I know there are a few of them here somewhere.

If he retires it comes off the books, but I don't see him walking away from that much money.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Maybe hell get a job with player safety.

Edited October 30, 2014 by jimmyemeryhunter

[frankgrimes 1,836]

If he retires it comes off the books, but I don't see him walking away from that much money.

You can always try to Pronger him << ltir Weiss would still get his money but not count against the cap

[Guest DeGraa55]

If he retires it comes off the books, but I don't see him walking away from that much money.

No it doesn't. With the new CBA we still have to

Pay him I thought? The kovachulk rule?

[jeff48109 474]

can we get Filppula back?

[GoWings1905 2,694]

can we get Filppula back?

I would rather just have the available money to pursue a goal-scoring winger instead than either Weiss or Filppula. The Wings are pretty set up the middle depth wise, thanks to Sheahan and Glendening emerging.

Now we have to either hope Weiss miraculously gets healthy and figures it out, Alfie's back heals or Mantha is the real deal right away.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Wonder if we could get Brunner back ?

[dirtydangles 1,328]

If we could somehow move weiss and then sign alfie I wouldn't complain.

[WingFanInLA 9]

No it doesn't. With the new CBA we still have to

Pay him I thought? The kovachulk rule?

If I understand the rules correctly, players under 35 that retire don't impact the cap (and don't collect any more money). The reason players over 35 have cap ramifications is to prevent a team from signing an old player to a stupid long contract that is heavily front loaded to minimize the cap hit short term and give the player a huge short term payday.

[Guest DeGraa55]

If I understand the rules correctly, players under 35 that retire don't impact the cap (and don't collect any more money). The reason players over 35 have cap ramifications is to prevent a team from signing an old player to a stupid long contract that is heavily front loaded to minimize the cap hit short term and give the player a huge short term payday.

Ya the kovachulk rule. I didn't know it was only 35+ my bad,

[puckloo39 5,686]

Weiss doesn't have a team of sled dogs, by chance... does he?

[WingFanInLA 9]

Ya the kovachulk rule. I didn't know it was only 35+ my bad,

Easy to mix 'em up, they add and alter rules as GMs try to circumvent.