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11/9 GDT - Tampa Bay 4 at Detroit 3 (SO) - 6:00 PM EST

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Never said Tampa was a bad team or that Yzerman wasn't doing a good job. But sheesh, some fans here area already anointing them as one of the greatest teams of all time before they've really done anything.

That's *my* point as well, that there ARE 29 other teams. Winning the Cup isn't easy. Tampa may win multiple Cups, they many never win any in the Yzerman era. Like it or not, in professional sports, that's usually the way a team or player is perceived. Many Wings fans only judge the Wings on whether they win the Cup or not. Making the playoffs is not an accomplishment any more for the Wings, but yet it is for other franchises.

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I saw you argument earlier in the thread about that and actually agree with you. But that hardly makes them a bad team. They're a good team, with a lot of external talent, who has nevertheless not won a Cup.

Kip why isn't your avatar kip winger for real

The possibilities are endless

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Never said Tampa was a bad team or that Yzerman wasn't doing a good job. But sheesh, some fans here area already anointing them as one of the greatest teams of all time before they've really done anything.

That's *my* point as well, that there ARE 29 other teams. Winning the Cup isn't easy. Tampa may win multiple Cups, they many never win any in the Yzerman era. Like it or not, in professional sports, that's usually the way a team or player is perceived. Many Wings fans only judge the Wings on whether they win the Cup or not. Making the playoffs is not an accomplishment any more for the Wings, but yet it is for other franchises.

Is that what we're doing? I thought that I was suggesting that a strategy that they share with last years Stanley Cup finalists (acquiring important pieces of your team through trades and free agency) seems to have some merit to it. Either I wasn't being clear about that, or you're putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting my point in order to make one of your own. Which do you think is more likely based on my original post?

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Never said Tampa was a bad team or that Yzerman wasn't doing a good job. But sheesh, some fans here area already anointing them as one of the greatest teams of all time before they've really done anything.

That's *my* point as well, that there ARE 29 other teams. Winning the Cup isn't easy. Tampa may win multiple Cups, they many never win any in the Yzerman era. Like it or not, in professional sports, that's usually the way a team or player is perceived. Many Wings fans only judge the Wings on whether they win the Cup or not. Making the playoffs is not an accomplishment any more for the Wings, but yet it is for other franchises.

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Kip why isn't your avatar kip winger for real

The possibilities are endless

My avatar was a Winger album cover for a really long time. But I changed it to Lil' Wayne because he's awesome, and obnoxious, and everyone hates him, and awesome, and sexist, and awesome.

I'm a fan of all good heels. I like Rick Flair, I like Gary Bettman, and I like Lil' Wayne. I just can't help it.

In the words of the immortal Razor Ramon, "bad times don't always last, but BAD GUYS do".

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Is that what we're doing? I thought that I was suggesting that a strategy that they share with last years Stanley Cup finalists (acquiring important pieces of your team through trades and free agency) seems to have some merit to it. Either I wasn't being clear about that, or you're putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting my point in order to make one of your own. Which do you think is more likely based on my original post?

I think free agency is our weak point kip but what trades would you think could warrant a good return

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My avatar was a Winger album cover for a really long time. But I changed it to Lil' Wayne because he's awesome, and obnoxious, and everyone hates him, and awesome, and sexist, and awesome.

I'm a fan of all good heels. I like Rick Flair, I like Gary Bettman, and I like Lil' Wayne. I just can't help it.

In the words of the immortal Razor Ramon, "bad times don't always last, but BAD GUYS do".

I remember that avatar (and album well).

The Razor Ramon quote brings back some memories, and I always thought Ric Flair and Chelios would have gotten along.

I have no TV feed here at Dinosaur BBQ, but how are the guys skating? Did they look better in the 2nd? If they come out hard and focused and pop one early, they could pull it out?

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I think free agency is our weak point kip but what trades would you think could warrant a good return

Not really the thread for that, but over the last five years there have been plenty of opportunities to acquire pieces through trade or FA in my opinion. I've discussed some trades I'd favor in other threads if you feel like digging for them lol.

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Not really the thread for that, but over the last five years there have been plenty of opportunities to acquire pieces through trade or FA in my opinion. I've discussed some trades I'd favor in other threads if you feel like digging for them lol.

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My avatar was a Winger album cover for a really long time. But I changed it to Lil' Wayne because he's awesome, and obnoxious, and everyone hates him, and awesome, and sexist, and awesome.

I'm a fan of all good heels. I like Rick Flair, I like Gary Bettman, and I like Lil' Wayne. I just can't help it.

In the words of the immortal Razor Ramon, "bad times don't always last, but BAD GUYS do".

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But

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Who are you telling? I'm the one that picked the name. I fully realize how awesome Kip Winger is.

Just look at how he hangs his sunglasses from his banana hammock in that last pic. This guyf****** rules.

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