thegerkin 189 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Puck Daddy article. "The crux of this list is simple. Which of these awesome players do you select first to start a new team in 2014?". From the list of 45 players, 10 players (22% of total list) are from our beloved Red Wings. 6. Steve Yzerman (2009): Stevie Y took a lot of praise for changing his game and becoming more of a two-way player. But that shouldn't hide that his 155 points in 1988-89 are the highest in NHL history by a player not named Gretzky or Lemieux. 8. Dominik Hasek (2014): The ‘Dominator’ was the best regular season goalie in the NHL during a time when defense ruled. Game-stealing goalies are rare, and he was one of them. 17. Brett Hull (2009): Hull was a one-dimensional winger … but what a dimension it was. His ability to simply just score goals was surpassed by just Gretzky and Lemieux. 28. Chris Chelios (2013): Chelios was another ‘dead puck’ relic who shifted his game perfectly when offense gave way to defense. His longevity was something to marvel at playing until he was 48 years old. Chelios played well in the ‘live puck’ era, but his speed just may not be enough for today’s day and age. 29. Paul Coffey (2004): Offensive dynamo and second-highest scoring defenseman in NHL history. His game was hurt by the league’s defensive shift, but would be perfect for today’s more free-flowing systems. 31. Luc Robitaille (2009): The left-winger came out of nowhere with 84 points as a rookie and never stopped scoring. His hand-eye coordination was some of the best the league had ever seen. His skating became good enough to play in any era. 34. Brendan Shanahan (2013): One of the rare power forwards with a super skilled side – still hard to see how he and Mike Keenan never got along – Shanahan helped make the 2004 rule changes, and benefited from them. Still, was never ‘the guy’ on a winning team. Was more just an ancillary part. 36. Larry Murphy (2004): Longevity describes this defenseman. He changed the way he played once he got to Detroit, going from a positionally sound offensive defenseman to a defensive shutdown duo with Nicklas Lidstrom. That being said, Murphy’s lack of skating ability would do him in with the new rules. He may have been a nice piece in the old NHL, but not the new NHL. 37. Mark Howe (2011): Gordie’s son didn't start playing in the NHL until he was 24 years old. But he became a three-time All-Star, and someone many thought should have joined the Hall before 2011. Fast, smooth skater, good offensive instincts. He would be an excellent blueliner in today’s day and age. 39. Dino Cicarelli (2010): Every team needs a guy like Dino. With such an emphasis on skating in today’s game, few players go to the ‘hard areas’ like Cicarelli did. But for a player like him to succeed, you need great point play, and a good center. My team would always start with Yzerman. Even in today's NHL, Stevie Y's leadership more than makes up for a lack of skating speed with that knee. 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Chelios, the guy is a leader through and through. 1 KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Anyone who doesn't say Gretzky needs to get their hockey IQ tested. Out of the Wings players on the list, you have to go with Hasek. Most important position in hockey and he was a player that could carry a franchise. Also, I can't believe people picked Scott "I Can't Play Defense" Niedermayer over Joe Sakic. Seriously? Edited November 18, 2014 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Anyone who doesn't say Gretzky needs to get their hockey IQ tested. Out of the Wings players on the list, you have to go with Hasek. Most important position in hockey and he was a player that could carry a franchise. Also, I can't believe people picked Scott "I Can't Play Defense" Niedermayer over Joe Sakic. Seriously? I didn't read the post close enough I thought the OP meant from the list he provided. You're right Gretzky should be first. And As much as I hate to say it, Roy should be second, having a great Goalie is huge when building a team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Anyone who doesn't say Gretzky needs to get their hockey IQ tested. Out of the Wings players on the list, you have to go with Hasek. Most important position in hockey and he was a player that could carry a franchise. I think there is a very valid argument for Lemieux as well. I remember going into Lemieux's last couple season he actually had more points per game then Gretzky. In the End Gretzky averaged 1.92 points per game, while Lemieux averaged 1.88. Don’t get me wrong, I'm not saying Lemieux. I am saying there is definitely an argument. Edited November 18, 2014 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 I think there is a very valid argument for Lemieux as well. I remember going into the Lemieux's last couple season he actually had more points per game then Gretzky. In the End Gretzky averaged 1.92 points per game, while Lemieux averaged 1.88. Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying Lemieux. I am saying there is definitely an argument. Not saying Gretzky wouldn't be as successful today because who knows, his IQ is ridiculous, but Mario's got size and speed.Id feel more comfortable with lemieuxs chance of being dominant in today's game, when big fast and strong are pretty much the norm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 No lids? And I agree I think Lemieux would be my number one. But you can't go wrong with either one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Grezs and Mario might be 1A and 1B for the all time list of who you start a team with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Why not Bobby Orr over both Mario and Gretzky? Or Howe? Don't get me wrong their offense was lights out, but the other 2 brought almost the same level, while attributing more in other ways. Just curious. Edited November 18, 2014 by ben_usmc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Gretzky had longevity over Lemieux and Orr, who both had health issues. That's why he'd be a better pick to start your franchise with. 1 puckbags reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Gretzky had longevity over Lemieux and Orr, who both had health issues. That's why he'd be a better pick to start your franchise with. I agree with that. I put Orr out there simply because people were mentioning Lemieux Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 No Lidström? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) I think alot of people are not reading the first paragragh lol: "Welcome to our Hockey Hall of Fame power rankings. This list goes back to the 1997 class." Lidstrom is not in the HOF (yet), Orr was inducted before 1997. Edited November 18, 2014 by kliq 2 haroldsnepsts and Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted November 19, 2014 I think alot of people are not reading the first paragragh lol: "Welcome to our Hockey Hall of Fame power rankings. This list goes back to the 1997 class." Lidstrom is not in the HOF (yet), Orr was inducted before 1997. O ya that makes sense! I'm not a fan of reading I like pictures personally.... But I don't like this idea then. I think it should include anyone from any era...guys like Howe and Orr etx etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted November 19, 2014 I have Stevie, Sakic, and Hull - in that order. Stamkos reminds me a lot of Hull. Right handed shot, natural goal scorer. Stevie and Sakic clearly demonstrated better leadership and two way game but if the name of the game is scoring goals, Brett has to be up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 John Belliveau Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 Gretzky had longevity over Lemieux and Orr, who both had health issues. That's why he'd be a better pick to start your franchise with. 100% agree, part of being a great player is the ability to last a long time, stay out of situations where you don't get injured and just have all around good health. Lids is a prime example of this also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 No Lidström? LIDSTROM ISN'T IN THE HALL OF FAME YET Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 LIDSTROM ISN'T IN THE HALL OF FAME YET pardon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites