johnson_ian 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Why is Kindl not playing after he scored two power play goals? I know he isn't a great defensemen but does Babs really believe in Lashoff that much? I think something has to be going on behind the scenes, with either a trade coming or issues between Kindl and Babs. Why is no one talking about this??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 I don't think it's that he believes in Lashoff that much, just Kindl that little. It's just one of many times Kindl lost his spot on the roster. Babcock benching him during a game was a surprising move though. I don't live in Detroit anymore, but the media does seem pretty quiet about it. Like has anyone asked Babcock directly about Kindl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Why is Kindl not playing after he scored two power play goals? I know he isn't a great defensemen but does Babs really believe in Lashoff that much? I think something has to be going on behind the scenes, with either a trade coming or issues between Kindl and Babs. Why is no one talking about this??? Welcome to LGWs We are talking about this here and there. Just haven't dedicated an entire thread to it. For example, a couple of us just commented on the situation in tonight's Game Day Thread. I don't think it's that he believes in Lashoff that much, just Kindl that little. It's just one of many times Kindl lost his spot on the roster. Babcock benching him during a game was a surprising move though. I don't live in Detroit anymore, but the media does seem pretty quiet about it. Like has anyone asked Babcock directly about Kindl? I remember seeing Khan say that Babcok refused to comment on it. Sorry I can't find the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Kindl had 2 goals but followed it up with a terrible game against Tampa. I think he turned over the puck to Stamkos on one goal that was real bad. Looked real bad that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Kindl had 2 goals but followed it up with a terrible game against Tampa. I think he turned over the puck to Stamkos on one goal that was real bad. Looked real bad that game. and real bad is most definitely the oposite of Babcock's desired 'realgud' 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) As bad as Kindl is, Lashoff is worse. The only difference is Lashoff doesn't have the bonehead giveaways and penalties. Hopefully Ouellet can earn a spot moving forward and we can trade Kindl to the KHL, we could probably use him in my beer league too, just get him out of Detroit. Edited November 20, 2014 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Kindl is exactly the opposite of a "Mike Babcock-type" player. Especially a defenceman. Soft, doesn't use his size, weak along the boards, inconsistent, prone to defensive lapses... That's not to say Kindl doesn't have some talent. He's an NHLer, but will most likely find more success in a different system. Hopefully this equals more PP time for Smith. He got a taste of some last game. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 I don't know if it's fair to say that Lashoff is "worse" than Kindl. I mean sure at some things but they have almost completely opposite skill sets. If we could only combine them into one player frankenstein-style..... Kindlashoff.... 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 It's bizarre. The guy puts up three points in two games - looks like he's turning a corner. Has a rough outing in Tampa, an even worse one in Chicago. He must have said something stupid.I wouldn't hold my breath hoping for Smith on the PP, either. Seems to me that Babs is looking for someone who can hold the blueline and control the play. In that regard, I think DK is better than Smith. Smith has better offensive instincts, but DK has better poise with the puck. As much as I'd love to see him quarterback the 2nd PP, I have to admit, I have visions of him losing the puck and the PK'ers going on breakaways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 because he sucks, no? 1 cnot19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Dekeyser already plays on the PP a ton. We need more then two defencemen logging PP time. It won't be Quincey/Ericsson/Lashoff that's for sure. Smith it is. Or hopefully Ouellet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingedominance13 112 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Babcock stated he is refusing to talk about Kindl. and per usual Khan and St James refuse to actually do their job and report news. Absolutely nothing about Kindl has been reported other than he is not benched because of injury. Best Beat writers in the business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 It's strange to me because while I still am not a fan of Kindl and have given up on him developing into something than a bottom pairing guy, he still doesn't seem nearly as atrocious as he did last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 It's strange to me because while I still am not a fan of Kindl and have given up on him developing into something than a bottom pairing guy, he still doesn't seem nearly as atrocious as he did last year. That's because he isn't. Kindl is somewhere between the player he was two years ago and the one we saw last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 Dekeyser already plays on the PP a ton. We need more then two defencemen logging PP time. It won't be Quincey/Ericsson/Lashoff that's for sure. Smith it is. Or hopefully Ouellet... They've gone with the 1-3-1 all year on the PP, and it doesn't seem like they're going to change that. They're using Datsyuk, Z, Mule and Abs on one unit, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco and Helm on the other. Unless they change up that 2nd unit, they're only using two defenders on the PP, total. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 20, 2014 It's strange to me because while I still am not a fan of Kindl and have given up on him developing into something than a bottom pairing guy, he still doesn't seem nearly as atrocious as he did last year. I think a big part of why he hasn't been as bad is him not being paired with Lashoff as much, and he's getting a ton of offensive zone starts. Babcock was being careful in how he utilized him. Though I don't know what exactly Kindl did to muck that up and play his way off the roster again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 He had yo of said something that got back to Babcock, or to Babcock. He was having an off game vs Tampa like everyone else, but to willingly put yourself down to 5 d for an off night doesn't seem likely. I was hoping it was because they had a trade set up and that team had a game they wanted him to play the next night, but seeing as nothing happened, that's not the case. He must've ran his mouth, in which case, its good babs is hushhush about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Kindl is exactly the opposite of a "Mike Babcock-type" player. Especially a defenceman. Soft, doesn't use his size, weak along the boards, inconsistent, prone to defensive lapses... That's actually a majority of the team. Except the defensive part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Jakub Kindl is likely available via trade if the Red Wings are bringing up strong rookie Xavier Ouellet to play against Winnipeg and bypassing Kindl, who has really never got traction as an integral part of Detroit’s blue-line. “Only Kindl I know that can’t read (plays),” said a sarcastic pro scout. Ouch Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korrowan 111 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Ouch Link I think that says it all. Wow. Now we all know why he is so bad besides the awful giveaways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Ouch Link Had to read that a couple time before I got the joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Ouch Link Wow. That's harsher than anything I've ever said about him. Though it also doesn't bode well for the Wings ever being able to trade him if a pro scout is saying something that mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Wow. That's harsher than anything I've ever said about him. Though it also doesn't bode well for the Wings ever being able to trade him if a pro scout is saying something that mean. I don't think so. Opinions are like ass holes. Everyone has one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted November 21, 2014 Ouch Link I feel like that Kindl line is something that someone at the Edmonton Journal thought up, and figured was hilarious. You put something in quotation marks, you can deflect any blame if it doesn't go over well. Don't get me wrong, he's spot on... 1 Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Bernwagner 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2014 I think that the best shot to figure this out is watch the player's twitter's very carefully Follow all the verified Red Wings twitter accounts on TweetLeet http://www.tweetleet...troit/redwings/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
