Why is Kindl not playing?

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

I think that the best shot to figure this out is watch the player's twitter's very carefully

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Damn you mark BernWagner!

[GoalieManPat 1,007]

What its come down to is Kindl is a bust. As a 19 overall pick 8 years into being a pro he cant top being the teams 6-7th dman. I wouldnt be surprised if Kindl was the one Babs wanted gone for XO to be on the team at the start. Kindl has been as bad this year as he was last year. His partners and Howard especially have been playing a lot better so his bonehead mistakes and bad coverage havnt costed the Wings as much as it has. I think the Wings are trying to move him. He doesnt have much value right now but if they continue to let him play that value will continue to go down.

[canadian wings fan 305]

So are Kindl's stats not reflecting how bad of a D-Man he truly is? I mean his +/- is fine and he has 2 goals which is good compared to the rest of our dmen.

[VM1138 1,921]

Limited minutes and the whole team is strong defensively. Clearly no one in the coaching staff or media thinks very much of him, which tells me he's not learning and reaching that potential he should have hit a couple years ago.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

So are Kindl's stats not reflecting how bad of a D-Man he truly is? I mean his +/- is fine and he has 2 goals which is good compared to the rest of our dmen.

He's playing very sheltered minutes.

[dirtydangles 1,328]

If you watch the 3rd ottawa goal the other night it was directly caused by his terribad clearing attempt. He could have been safe and iced it or thrown it to the corner.

[TheXym 2,606]

Halloran with the call from center ice. Why am I not surprised. Time for the PK to stand tall.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Halloran with the call from center ice. Why am I not surprised. Time for the PK to stand tall.

Pssst.

(You're in the wrong thread)

[TheXym 2,606]

Doh, my bad.

Back on topic, Kindl is decent offensively, but I have a feeling he is holding the stick so tightly it's causing more defensive miscues because he's afraid of screwing up since he's on such a short leash.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

He's doing something wrong.

[daniel1 32]

Why is Kindl not playing after he scored two power play goals?

He sucks. He sucked when he was first brought up. He sucked after spending most of his career in the press box. He sucked last year. He sucked again this year. He. Just. Sucks.

[Guest DeGraa55]

He sucks. He sucked when he was first brought up. He sucked after spending most of his career in the press box. He sucked last year. He sucked again this year. He. Just. Sucks.

Didn't he have two assists tonight?

He is the second coming of lids!

[GoalieManPat 1,007]

Back on topic, Kindl is decent offensively, but I have a feeling he is holding the stick so tightly it's causing more defensive miscues because he's afraid of screwing up since he's on such a short leash.

I disagree there. He is right around 20 pts a season average. Thats not good when your supposed to be an offensive defensive. When you can put up 40+ pts a season as a dman being weak defensively can be overlooked. 20 pts no way. Plain and simple hes just not a good NHL D-man. Like I said in my previous post for where he was drafted he was a major bust.

[Zetts 236]

I disagree there. He is right around 20 pts a season average. Thats not good when your supposed to be an offensive defensive. When you can put up 40+ pts a season as a dman being weak defensively can be overlooked. 20 pts no way. Plain and simple hes just not a good NHL D-man. Like I said in my previous post for where he was drafted he was a major bust.

He's actually never even hit 20 points.

[rick zombo 3,739]

I disagree there. He is right around 20 pts a season average. Thats not good when your supposed to be an offensive defensive. When you can put up 40+ pts a season as a dman being weak defensively can be overlooked. 20 pts no way. Plain and simple hes just not a good NHL D-man. Like I said in my previous post for where he was drafted he was a major bust.

Not defending Kindl, but you have to look at the system they play and who the coach is. Look at Smith's numbers. 19 pts last year.

It's hard to argue against Babcock as a coach because he's getting pretty good results so far this year, but it's obvious that the only two defencemen on this team that are consistently "allowed" to be offensive-minded are Kronwall and DeKeyser.

If Kindl played for Tampa, for example, I bet he gets 30 points.

[barabbas16 499]

I disagree there. He is right around 20 pts a season average. Thats not good when your supposed to be an offensive defensive. When you can put up 40+ pts a season as a dman being weak defensively can be overlooked. 20 pts no way. Plain and simple hes just not a good NHL D-man. Like I said in my previous post for where he was drafted he was a major bust.

2005 #19 pick - Jakub Kindl - 231 GP, 55 Pts

2006 #19 pick - Mark Mitera - 0 GP, 0 Pts

2007 #19 pick - Logan MacMillan - 0 GP, 0 Pts

Major bust is a bit excessive.

[dirtydangles 1,328]

This clip pretty much sums up Kindl for me. He is just a disaster and a liability out there: http://youtu.be/kOhvFZcCuNk?t=14m10s

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

2005 #19 pick - Jakub Kindl - 231 GP, 55 Pts

2006 #19 pick - Mark Mitera - 0 GP, 0 Pts

2007 #19 pick - Logan MacMillan - 0 GP, 0 Pts

Major bust is a bit excessive.

True. But from a Wings perspective I think he's the highest draft pick they've had since Marty Lapointe. I think we all got a little excited he'd develop into a good NHL defenseman.

[krsmith17 7,191]

He was until we took Larkin 15th overall in this years draft, but people already want to trade him away...

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

This clip pretty much sums up Kindl for me. He is just a disaster and a liability out there:

That was a nice set up for the goal... Oh wait

[number9 3,297]

He was until we took Larkin 15th overall in this years draft, but people already want to trade him away...

Kindl and Larkin for Myers?

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Kindl and Larkin for Myers?

I can't recall where I read it, but I'm pretty sure that was what buffalo was asking for after we rejected the mantha idea.

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

I can't recall where I read it, but I'm pretty sure that was what buffalo was asking for after we rejected the mantha idea.

Ya and we immediately turned it down. No one wanted to trade mantha or Larkin

[sputman 1,268]

Kindl and Larkin for Myers?

He won't put up Mantha numbers but I think we would really regret trading Larkin down the road, I get the impression he's a great kid and works his ass off.

[number9 3,297]

He won't put up Mantha numbers but I think we would really regret trading Larkin down the road, I get the impression he's a great kid and works his ass off.

I wasn't being serious. Any realistic trade for Myers would be a mistake.