redwingsfan83 2 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 The Red Wings should never let Howard be their goalie in shootouts. 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 +10 points for originality 4 SaCkaveli20, number9, jimmyemeryhunter and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 +10 points for originality+5 for keeping it short and sweet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 +1000 if this thread lasts the night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 Do you think Mrazek would do better coming in cold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 Ya but his bad pass save% is almost perfect 6 rick zombo, SaCkaveli20, BottleOfSmoke and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 So what is he doing wrong? Too deep in the net? Making the first move too soon? He's a good goalie, above average even, why does he suck at this? Or is it just something he doesn't have, like Helm on breakaways? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 How about we score MORE THAN ONE FREAKING GOAL. Then we don't have to worry about it. 4 krsmith17, rick zombo, 13dangledangle and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 How about we score MORE THAN ONE FREAKING GOAL. Then we don't have to worry about it.I hesitate to post this because I don't really feel great about continuing this thread, but a lack of scoring isn't an excuse for being poor in the shootout. We can't score 4 every game, we're gonna have to win a shootout sometimes too. 5 13dangledangle, Hockeymom1960, twopups and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 How about we score MORE THAN ONE FREAKING GOAL. Then we don't have to worry about it. Exactly. And we haven’t had to worry about it in a while. Unless this team is playing an Anaheim-Pittsburgh combo all-star team right now, a shootout almost always means they blew it in regulation somehow. Which is cool because there were times early in this season and all of last season when I was happy with a point. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 Do you think Mrazek would do better coming in cold. he wouldnt be worse ...so maybe. No to gus though, if we threw him in his icey groin would be torn into oblivion 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 he wouldnt be worse ...so maybe. No to gus though, if we threw him in his icey groin would be torn into oblivion True that. He seems to do pretty well in shootouts though. Have to stick with Jimmy (or whatever goaltender played that day), just have to hope he can start stopping them at the same percentage he used to. If I recall his overall numbers in the shootout aren't bad, just the last few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 True that. He seems to do pretty well in shootouts though. Have to stick with Jimmy (or whatever goaltender played that day), just have to hope he can start stopping them at the same percentage he used to. If I recall his overall numbers in the shootout aren't bad, just the last few years. Yep, true statement. Probably because hes getting up there in terms of high calibre goalies; players will be looking at his film more often and seeing they can park a bus in his five hole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 The sky is falling and stuff. 1 matthewdanna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 I hesitate to post this because I don't really feel great about continuing this thread, but a lack of scoring isn't an excuse for being poor in the shootout. We can't score 4 every game, we're gonna have to win a shootout sometimes too. Correct but scoring 2 wins us the game. Also even IF Howard stopped the second shootout goal would the wings actually score?1. Remember howie isn't the only one who is terrible in Shootouts it's literally the whole team. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 I love Howard, and I think he is one of the most underrated goalies in the league, but he is really struggling in the shootout this year. According to ESPN, his save % in the Shootout is 30%. Second worst in the NHL amongst starting goalies. With that being said, I have faith in Jimmy. I'm sure he will work on this and get better. We are #1 in the conference right now and Jimmy is a HUGE part of that. I will take him being bad in the shootout if that's his biggest flaw. Come playoff time, that means nothing anyways. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,343 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 I've always wondered if you could track down the Guiness Book of World Records fattest man, strap some pads on him, and just literally plug up the entire net with him. Is there a rule in the NHL rule book about this? Are there weight parameters that say "If the goalie is large enough that there is no longer an opening to the net, he cannot play in the NHL?". It surely would solve our shootout issues if there was no entrance to the net at all. If we can keep this thread respectful and on point about Howard's performance in shootouts, and his percentages indeed being among the lowest, it may continue. Let's keep it friendly, it is the holiday season after all. 2 amato and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 Yes, shooters have to put goals in too, however, I wonder if it's a lack of confidence on both ends? When Petr was in they seemed to have more confidence in the shoot out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 I've always wondered if you could track down the Guiness Book of World Records fattest man, strap some pads on him, and just literally plug up the entire net with him. Is there a rule in the NHL rule book about this? Are there weight parameters that say "If the goalie is large enough that there is no longer an opening to the net, he cannot play in the NHL?". It surely would solve our shootout issues if there was no entrance to the net at all. If we can keep this thread respectful and on point about Howard's performance in shootouts, and his percentages indeed being among the lowest, it may continue. Let's keep it friendly, it is the holiday season after all. LOL I've seriously thought about the same thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trastion 22 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 I like Howard as a goalie but I have been watching him since he first joined the Griffins years ago when i was a season ticket holder and his biggest fault has always been that he cannot stop a breakaway or a shootout goal. Those hoping he will work on it and get better, sorry but he has had years to work on it already. We have one of the best goaltending coaches there is and that hasn't helped much either. Granted I also think we need to score more goals in the game itself so we don't go to the shootout and if we do then score more than zero or one goals in the shootout. Ultimately I would like the league to get rid of the skills competition for deciding games anyways. Does anyone even know what the rules are about changing to a goalie that did not play in the main game? I am sure that it is allowed if there is an injury or something but not sure if they can otherwise. It sure would be a way for Babcock to send a message to Jimmy that he needs to improve in that fashion. 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 What happens if Howard and Helm face each other in practice on a breakaway, over and over again? The resistible force versus the movable object. 5 AtlantaHotWings, 13dangledangle, GoWings! and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 What happens if Howard and Helm face each other in practice on a breakaway, over and over again? The resistible force versus the movable object. Helm only shoots five hole on breakaways, he wins everytime paper beats rock 1 GMRwings1983 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPT 26 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 I was just getting to like his middle name "rebound machine". The shootout really does expose his weaknesses, he's always down first, have you ever seen him poke check someone making a move on him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 His style as more of a blocking goalie does not lend itself to a shootout or breakaway add to that his complete lack of poke checking ability and you'll see why he struggles in the shootout much more than actual game play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted December 11, 2014 Every time we go to the shootout with Howie I expect to lose... I hate the shootout regardless and wish it was eliminated. Bring back ties, or make a win in regulation worth 3 points! That's neither here nor there/ I would have brought Mrazek off the bench for sure. Sucks losing a game we dominated... but we dominated and that's important. Still have best record in East Share this post Link to post Share on other sites