12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

[GoWings1905 2,694]

yep, keep laughing. If they keep playing like they have this month, you'll be laughing at them falling down the standings.

3-2-2? Not setting the world on fire, but eight of 14 points isn't a tragedy either. Besides, only two games have been really poor showings anyways this month.

It's a long season. The Wings have done pretty well to this point of minimizing the lows. Then again, maybe I don't understand what exactly people expect from them.

[BottleOfSmoke 5,965]

Hopefully it's as enjoyable to watch the Leafs self-destruct come spring as it was last year.

Edit: double post

Edited December 14, 2014 by BottleOfSmoke

[puckloo39 5,686]

If looking at 2015 January and February's schedule doesn't sober them up and make then realize they NEED to get points in these remaining home games in December, it's going to get really ugly.

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Hopefully it's a enjoyable to watch the Leafs self-destruct come spring as it was last year.

Hopefully it's as enjoyable to watch the Leafs self-destruct come spring as it was last year.

I agree. I agree.

The Leafs aren't that good. I have the utmost confidence the Wings are the much better team going forward, despite the season series.

[Yak19 303]

Toronto and Florida seriously Wings? Get it together. I know the Leafs should not have had a single point in the previous meeting but the team looked completely lost tonight. 2 weak goals let in by Mrazek although he made some amazing saves as well and in the end he was not the problem.

[BottleOfSmoke 5,965]

I agree. I agree.

The Leafs aren't that good. I have the utmost confidence the Wings are the much better team going forward, despite the season series.

dammit, you caught me before I edited *shakes fist*

Edit: I swear I'm not drunk

Edited December 14, 2014 by BottleOfSmoke

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Mule hasn't even registered a shot on goal in his last two games.

Taking his Christmas vacation a bit early?

EDIT: And I think that extends his goal drought to 12 games?

(I'm not saying Franzen is the only problem. He is not. But he started so strong and Mule going silent doesn't help).

[wingfan13 44]

Question.. which one of the penalties against us was most legit. They all looked like dog s*** to me but I've been drinking. Ignore Smith losing his s***.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Wings are no different than last year. Same crap. Three straight losses to the Maple Leafs that everyone thought they sucked.

Remember Samuelsson? Bertuzzi? The terrible version of Weiss? Jordin "pressbox" Tootoo?

Injuries and inexperience will be the big question marks for the Wings this season, but this is not the same team as last year.

[BottleOfSmoke 5,965]

@Michael_Traikos: Morgan Rielly gave Panik two separate fist bumps during their presser. #leafs

Everything these guys do just reeks of douchbaggery.

And yes I am a sore loser.

[Dabura 12,207]

Hoo boy, that was ugly. Pretty much everything was terrible, except for Mrazek, who deserved a better fate.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Hoo boy, that was ugly. Pretty much everything was terrible, except for Mrazek, who deserved a better fate.

2 soft goals isn't exactly amazing but he still has been the best wing by far

[dragonballgtz 273]

For the few moments I was able to watch, it looked like the Leafs made the Wings play a run and gun game. For the most part, they wont win like that

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Well, that was piss poor. Hope Abby and DeKeyser are ready to go Tuesday. How about that Franzen guy eh? Man, when he is cold he literally brings nothing to the team. Floating, diving, soft as butter, turnovers galore. Woof.

[RedWingsRox 614]

No worries .... team was just playing to make sure Shanahan doesn't offer Babs a huge contract.

[Dabura 12,207]

Injuries and inexperience will be the big question marks for the Wings this season, but this is not the same team as last year.

Truth. Case in point: last season, we didn't win our twelfth home game until March.

This is a funk. It happens. The Isles just snapped a three-game losing streak. The Bolts have lost to the Sabres, Jackets, and Caps (twice) in the past week and a half or so. The Canucks have lost three in a row, I think. The Kings flat-out suck right now. The Ducks are doing really well, but they had a pretty ugly stretch not long ago. The Flames (I'm not a believer) have lost four straight. The Sharks are surging after a really rough start.

You're always going to have your good stretches and your bad stretches, you've just got to minimize the frequency and duration of the latter.

Not saying this wasn't a terrible performance. It was. But we were gods in the second half of November, so you knew a crash was coming. Actually, I honestly wonder if all the scoring we were doing isn't sort of backfiring. I remember the best coach I ever played for once said that getting a ton of goals from a ton of different guys every night can be a double-edged sword. Everyone thinks, "Well, we're scoring six goals every night, and everyone's contributing, so I don't really need to be a big factor this week," and so what you get is everyone's effort drops off, all at the same time. Suddenly, that scoring depth, that balanced attack - poof, gone. And once you're in that rut, it can be really hard to get out of it.

[Vladinator16 236]

Let's look on the bright side, at least it wasn't a shootout loss!

[Guest DeGraa55]

Let's look on the bright side, at least it wasn't a shootout loss!

Least that results in a point...

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Glad I missed this one

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

Anybody know why Yzerman waived Panik? I was impressed with him in Calder Cup 2 years ago.

[kliq 3,755]

We are in a 3 game losing streak, where 2 of the 3 losses were in the shootout and the team we lost to twice is the hottest team in hockey in their last 10 games. It happens. If a 3 game losing streak is the worst of our problems, this is a pretty damn good season!

I think every poster on this board would take the position we are in right now if it was told to them before the season. We cant go 82-0, losing streaks will happen. As long as the winning streaks out way the losing streaks, we will be okay.

[number9 3,297]

Anybody know why Yzerman waived Panik? I was impressed with him in Calder Cup 2 years ago.

I think he just plain had to, and didn't exactly manage his roster correctly. I wouldn't have waived Panik unless I absolutely had too. He's been real good whenever I've seen him. World juniors and minors.

I don't want to be an unpopular Holland liker (but I am). Holland has waived guys like Nestrasil and Ritola, never a Panik type. In Kenny I trust.

[Dabura 12,207]

I don't want to be an unpopular Holland liker (but I am). Holland has waived guys like Nestrasil and Ritola, never a Panik type. In Kenny I trust.

I don't mind trusting in Holland, but isn't that kind of a stretch? Yzerman's put together a ludicrously deep team (for a cap era team) that's going to be competitive for a long time. He got Bishop for nothing. He got Garrison for nothing. He flipped Quincey for a first-round pick. He turned the impossible MSL situation into Callahan, a first-round pick, and a second-round pick. He found Johnson. He has Palat and Kucherov, and Drouin, and Hedman, and crazy organizational depth at the goalie position (though, Nabokov was definitely a "You serious, bro?" signing) (though, he's an upgrade over Lindback). Stralman and Boyle were great signings. Flip's been huge for them. Stamkos is a pretty good hockey player. John Cooper - perfect fit. Cutting ties with Salo was the right call, one Holland probably wouldn't have made, because loyalty and veteran leadership and right-handed shot and depth and all that.

Losing Panik hasn't hurt them one bit. Yzerman knows what he's doing.

[kipwinger 8,521]

I don't mind trusting in Holland, but isn't that kind of a stretch? Yzerman's put together a ludicrously deep team (for a cap era team) that's going to be competitive for a long time. He got Bishop for nothing. He got Garrison for nothing. He flipped Quincey for a first-round pick. He turned the impossible MSL situation into Callahan, a first-round pick, and a second-round pick. He found Johnson. He has Palat and Kucherov, and Drouin, and Hedman, and crazy organizational depth at the goalie position (though, Nabokov was definitely a "You serious, bro?" signing) (though, he's an upgrade over Lindback). Stralman and Boyle were great signings. Flip's been huge for them. Stamkos is a pretty good hockey player. John Cooper - perfect fit. Cutting ties with Salo was the right call, one Holland probably wouldn't have made, because loyalty and veteran leadership and right-handed shot and depth and all that.

Losing Panik hasn't hurt them one bit. Yzerman knows what he's doing.

We'll eat those nancys in the playoffs. Steven Stamkos wants nothing to do with a steady diet of Luke Glendening. Nothing.

[number9 3,297]

I don't mind trusting in Holland, but isn't that kind of a stretch? Yzerman's put together a ludicrously deep team (for a cap era team) that's going to be competitive for a long time. He got Bishop for nothing. He got Garrison for nothing. He flipped Quincey for a first-round pick. He turned the impossible MSL situation into Callahan, a first-round pick, and a second-round pick. He found Johnson. He has Palat and Kucherov, and Drouin, and Hedman, and crazy organizational depth at the goalie position (though, Nabokov was definitely a "You serious, bro?" signing) (though, he's an upgrade over Lindback). Stralman and Boyle were great signings. Flip's been huge for them. Stamkos is a pretty good hockey player. John Cooper - perfect fit. Cutting ties with Salo was the right call, one Holland probably wouldn't have made, because loyalty and veteran leadership and right-handed shot and depth and all that.

Losing Panik hasn't hurt them one bit. Yzerman knows what he's doing.

Not saying he hasn't done good. Only screw ups I can think of that he's made is the Lindback deal and waiving Panik. But he was trained by Kenny after all