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1/7 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Flames 2

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He'd want the first one back, but otherwise a very good game from Mrazek.

And I think Drew Miller has become the Wings most physical forward. He had a great game tonight overall.

Weiss's minutes back down to under 11. I have to say I wasn't particularly impressed by him tonight.

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He'd want the first one back, but otherwise a very good game from Mrazek.

And I think Drew Miller has become the Wings most physical forward. He had a great game tonight overall.

Weiss's minutes back down to under 11. I have to say I wasn't particularly impressed by him tonight.

I've come to appreciate Drew Miller a lot more this year, which is kind of funny considering offensively he can't buy one.

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Great to see Mrazek bounce back after that straight up garbo first goal (though I like his aggressiveness most of the time, it cost him this time). Also loved to see the Datsyuk finishing of his check, but I think major props needs to go to Abby and Sheahan. Abby because he is having a career year and showing he can really hang with the best, at least for now, (in my opinion), and Teletubby for his newfound confidence on offense. Dude could really mean something to the squad on a third line, when it appears the likes of Jurco, Glendening, Andersson could still use some polishing. Great to get 4 points on back to back road games. LGW

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Photos?

Sadly no. Was up in the bleeds so any I would have taken would have been poor lol. But it was fun up there. Fairly quiet minus people getting LGW chants going. Lots of empties too. Definitely not the same vibe as even 5 years ago.

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I'm not giving Mrazek a pass on the first goal. I've watched the replay a few times last night, then again this morning...he gave up on the play. Once he realized Raymond had so much speed and was not being covered behind the net, he gave up. In most instances, on the second half of a back-to-back road game, those early mistakes will kill you. I heard Osgood and others say "he wanted that one back", which is short for that was horrible goal tending. It's an easy way to give a goalie a pass, especially after we secure a win.

Fortunately, he recovered and played very well the rest of the game and so did the Wings, and we won. So all is good with the outcome.

But that first goal should not be given a pass. Horrible. Giving up on the play is even worse. That wasn't even AHL caliber...that was beer league.

Hey, if that happened when Osgood or anyone else was the back-up during one of our Stanley Cup/President Trophy winning years...we'd have a LOT to say. So let's not be complacent now. We want the best team in the league and win a Stanley Cup, then we need to pay attention to every detail and things like this and not let them pass without accountability.

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I'm not giving Mrazek a pass on the first goal. I've watched the replay a few times last night, then again this morning...he gave up on the play. Once he realized Raymond had so much speed and was not being covered behind the net, he gave up. In most instances, on the second half of a back-to-back road game, those early mistakes will kill you. I heard Osgood and others say "he wanted that one back", which is short for that was horrible goal tending. It's an easy way to give a goalie a pass, especially after we secure a win.

Fortunately, he recovered and played very well the rest of the game and so did the Wings, and we won. So all is good with the outcome.

But that first goal should not be given a pass. Horrible. Giving up on the play is even worse. That wasn't even AHL caliber...that was beer league.

Hey, if that happened when Osgood or anyone else was the back-up during one of our Stanley Cup/President Trophy winning years...we'd have a LOT to say. So let's not be complacent now. We want the best team in the league and win a Stanley Cup, then we need to pay attention to every detail and things like this and not let them pass without accountability.

What do you want the Wings to do? Pull him after he lets in a stinker? Howard has let in plenty of goals when he wasn't in the crease (Canucks game for example) should be trade and not put up with him either? This is the highest level of Hockey, they are human mistakes will be made all over the ice not just in net.

If Mrazek did this every game, different story.

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Ya. I'm all for giving credit/blame where it is due. It was a bad goal, but should he be flogged for it? He knows he screwed up and he made up for it the rest of the game. He isn't one to make excuses and he played as well as he could from there on out. Yes a rookie. He'll learn when to be aggressive and when to stay in position.

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Trade Mrazek, he is TRASH!!!

Seriously? "Let's not be complacent now"? "Not let this pass without accountability"? What do you propose the team should do? It was a bad goal, and I'm sure Petr is quite aware of his mistake. Relax...

He's not trash, giving up on the play was trash. My issue is not with the mistake, it's with him giving up on the play. I'm not looking for the Wings to do anything in regards to trading him (I don't think I stated that....), but it's irritating hearing people state "he wants that one back". It wasn't the run of the mill bad goal that was let in, he gave up on the play, that's the point. Should he be benched/passed on his next scheduled start?...yeah, maybe. Maybe a lesson like that would help him get better prepared for games, and send a message about quitting on a play. You can't let giving up slide. Mistakes, yes; giving up...no. This is the freakin NHL!! Btw...if you question that he gave up on the play, you need to watch the play again. He had no intention of fighting back to the crease to attempt to get the stick down to prevent wrap-around. You got me thinking about a hypothetical question though...I wonder what Scotty would have done to a goalie that gave up on a play?? Interesting thought.

Not looking to battle, we won. That's the important thing.

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He's not trash, giving up on the play was trash. My issue is not with the mistake, it's with him giving up on the play. I'm not looking for the Wings to do anything in regards to trading him (I don't think I stated that....), but it's irritating hearing people state "he wants that one back". It wasn't the run of the mill bad goal that was let in, he gave up on the play, that's the point. Should he be benched/passed on his next scheduled start?...yeah, maybe. Maybe a lesson like that would help him get better prepared for games, and send a message about quitting on a play. You can't let giving up slide. Mistakes, yes; giving up...no. This is the freakin NHL!! Btw...if you question that he gave up on the play, you need to watch the play again. He had no intention of fighting back to the crease to attempt to get the stick down to prevent wrap-around. You got me thinking about a hypothetical question though...I wonder what Scotty would have done to a goalie that gave up on a play?? Interesting thought.

Not looking to battle, we won. That's the important thing.

You would set a record for a coach that lost the locker room the quickest ever if that's how you think to handle things. Scotty was old school, this is a new generation of players, they don't handle that well anymore.

I bet your an all star at your job, you can't do anything wrong.

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I wonder what Scotty would have done to a goalie that gave up on a play??

Thought about it for 10 seconds, concluded that his rookie goalie made a not so costly mistake, and then moved on to more important things...like helping D. McCarty kick his crack cocaine habit?

Or did you think that Scotty never had any issues with players?

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He's not trash, giving up on the play was trash. My issue is not with the mistake, it's with him giving up on the play. I'm not looking for the Wings to do anything in regards to trading him (I don't think I stated that....), but it's irritating hearing people state "he wants that one back". It wasn't the run of the mill bad goal that was let in, he gave up on the play, that's the point. Should he be benched/passed on his next scheduled start?...yeah, maybe. Maybe a lesson like that would help him get better prepared for games, and send a message about quitting on a play. You can't let giving up slide. Mistakes, yes; giving up...no. This is the freakin NHL!! Btw...if you question that he gave up on the play, you need to watch the play again. He had no intention of fighting back to the crease to attempt to get the stick down to prevent wrap-around. You got me thinking about a hypothetical question though...I wonder what Scotty would have done to a goalie that gave up on a play?? Interesting thought.

Not looking to battle, we won. That's the important thing.

You wouldn't happen to be Tom McCollum's cousin or something would you?

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LOL at everything you just said, except the last sentence and a half, which was the only bit of sense that you made in that rant...

Okay, you can be fine and accept giving up on a play. I won't. It's actually embarrassing as this is something I hear bantam coaches "ranting" about consistently.

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Okay, you can be fine and accept giving up on a play. I won't. It's actually embarrassing as this is something I hear bantam coaches "ranting" about consistently.

I don't even think that he "gave up on the play" so I'm not being "fine" with anything. But that's not the point. My point was that you're really upset about this, like in a really weird way.

Anyway, whatevs.

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You would set a record for a coach that lost the locker room the quickest ever if that's how you think to handle things. Scotty was old school, this is a new generation of players, they don't handle that well anymore.

I bet your an all star at your job, you can't do anything wrong.

Job??? What job?? I was so good at my job that I quit trying and I still get paid. They refuse to criticize or discipline me. I don't even show up anymore!! They know I'm a "new school" type of employee who wouldn't take well to criticism, reprimands, or disciplinary action, so they just let me keep doing what I do. They may need me for a big client presentation in April, but they're not worried a bit. They know I'm tough on myself so it might go okay if they do need me. This is awesome!!

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Thought about it for 10 seconds, concluded that his rookie goalie made a not so costly mistake, and then moved on to more important things...like helping D. McCarty kick his crack cocaine habit?

Or did you think that Scotty never had any issues with players?

No, my point is that Scotty had plenty of issues with players. Did Scotty know Darren had a crack problem? Maybe he did, I don't know. I do know that Shanny got benched for a game cause Scotty thought he "dogged" it on just one shift. He stated this in an interview with Pierre Mcguire a few years back on Sirius/NHL channel. An entire game for one perceived lazy shift....one of the best players on the team.

Jesus Christ dude. Tell us how you really feel lol.

I know right?

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