mvanpop 98 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 I'm pretty sure someone here mentioned it, but right after Weiss took that hooking penalty against Johnny Hockey, Babcock walked over to Hiller and told him something. Right then, I was like "Weiss, meet dog house... again." Just checked, and he ended up with 10:35 TOI. Thanks that helps me understand but still seems kind of harsh when Weiss doesn't take a lot of penalties. The stats I've looked at on NHL.com say he has 4 PIM. That's not bad for at all for 18 games played Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Agreed, Weiss should be on a higher line. 3 Wheelchairsuperhero, canadian wings fan and KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadian wings fan 305 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 #freeweiss 2 KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 and LasVegasRocks reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 I'm at the Dinosaur in Syracuse again, top notch BBQ has been a good luck charm for the boys. Let's Go Wings! I'd love to see Pulks light it up as well. 5 jimmyemeryhunter, canadian wings fan, marcaractac and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Agreed, Weiss should be on a higher line. I'm also going to say I think Miller is a big part of the fourth line's success of shutting down opposition top lines. So he should definitely be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) I'm pretty sure someone here mentioned it, but right after Weiss took that hooking penalty against Johnny Hockey, Babcock walked over to Hiller and told him something. Right then, I was like "Weiss, meet dog house... again." Just checked, and he ended up with 10:35 TOI. Yeah. That was me in the GDT. I was sure Weiss would either play the rest of the game on the 4th line or not play at all. Turns out, he kept his spot in the 3rd, but barely played. I think Babcock sees the value of having him on the PP, but other than that, it's obvious that Weiss either isn't working hard enough or doing the things Babcock wants him to. Or both. Actually, they might be one and the same. I'm OK with this. Except that it really annoys the hell out of me that guys like Weiss and Legwand get this treatment when Franzen gets a free pass each and every night. Edited January 10, 2015 by rick zombo 2 Jesusberg and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Yeah. That was me in the GDT. I was sure Weiss would either play the rest of the game on the 4th line or not play at all. Turns out, he kept his spot in the 3rd, but barely played. I think Babcock sees the value of having him on the PP, but other than that, it's obvious that Weiss either isn't working hard enough or doing the things Babcock wants him to. Or both. Actually, they might be one and the same. I'm OK with this. Except that it really annoys the hell out of me that guys like Weiss and Legwand get this treatment when Franzen gets a free pass each and every night. Agreed. Both guys are scoring at a .67 PPG clip, yet one is averaging over 16 minutes a night, while the other is getting around 11:30. Babcock keeps saying he's in the business of winning every night, but I get the impression that he's in the business of winning his way, and only his way. That's all fine and good, but the other guy you're playing about five more minutes a night isn't exactly busting his behind, either. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 I actually think this Weiss demotion might have more to do with putting Miller, our best defensive forward, with Pulkkinen. Maybe Babs doesn't trust pulks enough on the defensive side of the puck, so he puts Miller there to compensate. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) I actually think this Weiss demotion might have more to do with putting Miller, our best defensive forward, with Pulkkinen. Maybe Babs doesn't trust pulks enough on the defensive side of the puck, so he puts Miller there to compensate.Very true. Good point. Miller and Sheahan were excellent vs Calgary so maybe Babcock doesn't want them split up. And it makes even less sense to put Pulkinnen on the fourth line than Weiss. So was is the odd man out of last game's combo. I guess. Anyway, special teams are obviously this team's bread and butter so I suppose it doesn't matter where Weiss, Helm, or Miller play as long as they slot in where they should when they are on the PP/K Edited January 10, 2015 by rick zombo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Miller on the third line happened midway through last game. Most of the team was looking flat and Miller was actually making some plays and was rewarded by putting him with Datsyuk. I'm fine with mixing things up since we've been struggling to get offence going. Khan says Miller will probably be switched with Weiss depending on matchups: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2015/01/red_wings_begin_second_half_of.html I agree Weiss shouldn't be on the 4th line, but he did have a bad game against the Flames. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 +1 for originality and get that Washington feel ... only suggestion, a different font .. is it me or is the Script hard to read? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvanpop 98 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Miller on the third line happened midway through last game. Most of the team was looking flat and Miller was actually making some plays and was rewarded by putting him with Datsyuk. I'm fine with mixing things up since we've been struggling to get offence going. Khan says Miller will probably be switched with Weiss depending on matchups: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2015/01/red_wings_begin_second_half_of.html I agree Weiss shouldn't be on the 4th line, but he did have a bad game against the Flames. I have noticed that Weiss isn't quite as dominant as before the last injury. Maybe it's what line he's on or maybe he's worried being aggressive will just put him back in the press box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Rat 78 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Nah I used my monocle it was easy. I think hockey Mom made a good point about the guys being sluggish. Luckily I think Z is going to start heating up even more and Pulks should provide a spark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Would be happy with a point Edited January 10, 2015 by frankgrimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 Have been bitter ever since that disgusting performance in Boston. If the wings can turn out a good performance against a dangerous team, while on the road, I may come around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yztheman 29 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 maybe the caps o will make the wings step up the pace keep the 2 way game going and stay tough on d , then maybe we bury some chances but know caps are gonna shoot; predict 4-3 wings dats and ovie rs vs rs lol abby gets another and tatar as well ; maybe something from the d kronner or danny d or when u least expect it quincy lol lets go wings !!!! 1 Rivalred reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hankzet40 233 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 Good God. That is the double dagger there. Jimmy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowings00 545 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 We had no chance tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 Oh f***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 so what happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 Oh man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 This does not look good at all. I like Mrazek, but losing Jimmy for any extended time would be a massive blow to the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 This looks bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 Details for people that cannot watch the game right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted January 11, 2015 Jimmy went down? I can't watch he game someone give me updates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites