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1/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (OT)

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Holy crap! Centcougar! I could not remember that guys name! I remember when he was here pretending to be a Wings fan talking about how we may or may not land the Olsen Twins that year! :lol: I also remember outing him when I stumbled across him on a Wild Forum using the same name! That was great times! Even though he was right about the Wild getting them, but it was awesome to out him on our forum! Dude, just be a Wild fan, we don't care! :lol:

Seriously. That was awesome when you outed him. The irony was he'd have been welcome as a Wild fan if he wanted to actually talk hockey. Some serious insecurity there.

I personally like when other team's fans come by to talk hockey and not be jerks. A certain Predators fan is pretty awesome about that, and I like the"outsider's" perspective. Trolls, on the other hand, can GTFO. ;)

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Not to be too cocky because that was a tight one, but it’s always sweet when the opponents genius strategy of “run them, hit them, whack them, cross check them and we’ll beat them because they’re all scared and from Sweeden” doesn’t work out the way they planned.

Edit to add: Rangers + Panthers + Habs all lost tonight, and Leafs are down 2-1 to SJ. Great great night to get two points.

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Man, one of the Sharks goals they allowed in the 1st period tonight against the Leafs was a joke. Obvious interference with players in the crease, yet they call interference on Abby tonight for brushing Elliott. NHL officiating is horrid. If your gonna call interference, be consistant with it in all games. Whatever, we won, but it may have been in regulation and the Blues would'nt have gotten that free point.

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A week ago, people were screaming to trade for a goalie cuz they didn't think Mrazek could get it done ... now people are proposing we trade Howie and let Mrazek run with it (in another post). I thought the Wings fan base was more intelligent than that ... guess I was wrong.

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A week ago, people were screaming to trade for a goalie cuz they didn't think Mrazek could get it done ... now people are proposing we trade Howie and let Mrazek run with it (in another post). I thought the Wings fan base was more intelligent than that ... guess I was wrong.

Just because a few think so doesn't mean the whole fanbase does. Goalies who are coming fresh into the league are often doing well the real testing point comes when other teams starting to figure out their weakness and expose them. Till then Mrazek remains a solid prospect with potential nothing more nothing less.

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A week ago, people were screaming to trade for a goalie cuz they didn't think Mrazek could get it done ... now people are proposing we trade Howie and let Mrazek run with it (in another post). I thought the Wings fan base was more intelligent than that ... guess I was wrong.

The media (NHL.com, few other non-local writers) speculated that we needed a trade for goalie. I didn't really see anyone around here propose that.

Love Mrazek. Love how nonchalantly he was handling the puck in overtime with players on him.

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Logging in cuz + 1 000 000 for the magic man you know there are just some players that will pull you out of your seat and in this corner the one the only undisputed...worth the price of admission as Mick says

props to Mraz love my slovaks in the nhl props to Hasek while Im here

missed game in trans at work no media access nice to see wings stayin afloat

cheers all

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He didn't get much ice time due to penalties, but when he was on he was looking a bit off tonight. Having trouble with the puck and getting a shot off. Needs to adjust to NHL speed.

This was in reply to ash about Pulks....

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He didn't get much ice time due to penalties, but when he was on he was looking a bit off tonight. Having trouble with the puck and getting a shot off. Needs to adjust to NHL speed.This was in reply to ash about Pulks....

Yet he got the exact same ice time as Weiss

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Wow didn't expect a win against that powerhouse , would have been happy with a non blowout so a nice surprise here.

They have 1 more point than us. We're 1-7 in the skills competetion. If they're a powerhouse, what does that make us?

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You guys know that we can't just blame everything on the shootout right?

Like...the fact that we even went to shootouts against non-playoffs teams isn't good. We've lost in the shootout to Toronto, Columbus, Florida, Colorado, and Buffalo. So even if there were no "skills competition", it's hardly a feather in our cap to regularly go to overtime against the trash of the league.

I agree that last night was a good win. And I hope we can build on it. But can we stop with the shootout blaming already? No matter how you cut it, we haven't been very good over the last month, Skillz Kompetishon or no.

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He didn't get much ice time due to penalties, but when he was on he was looking a bit off tonight. Having trouble with the puck and getting a shot off. Needs to adjust to NHL speed. This was in reply to ash about Pulks....

Hopefully he stays up long enough to get that experience to be able to adjust. Franzen, take ALL the time you need on IR, please. Once its all clicking for Teemu, I can see him being one hell of a player. He's got a laser of a shot.

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You guys know that we can't just blame everything on the shootout right?

Like...the fact that we even went to shootouts against non-playoffs teams isn't good. We've lost in the shootout to Toronto, Columbus, Florida, Colorado, and Buffalo. So even if there were no "skills competition", it's hardly a feather in our cap to regularly go to overtime against the trash of the league.

I agree that last night was a good win. And I hope we can build on it. But can we stop with the shootout blaming already? No matter how you cut it, we haven't been very good over the last month, Skillz Kompetishon or no.

I could've sworn we just went 4-2 on a road trip. We are on a par with, or within touching distance of, every good team in the league. We're over halfway through the season, there's only 6 points separating the top-10 teams, and we are in that grouping. We're top-10 in points, PP, PK, Face-offs, SA and GA. 12th and 13th in GF and SF which some will no doubt see as evidence of our weakness, but still places us in the top half. Whichever way you look at it, we're a good team. The Toronto's and Colorado's of this world, every other team in the NHL gets to play them too, and guess what? They haven't managed to separate themselves from us by beating up on this supposed trash that we couldn't beat.

And I'm not blaming anything on the SO, but it is a fact that some teams points totals are flattered by it, and others aren't. We are in the latter category.

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I could've sworn we just went 4-2 on a road trip. We are on a par with, or within touching distance of, every good team in the league. We're over halfway through the season, there's only 6 points separating the top-10 teams, and we are in that grouping. We're top-10 in points, PP, PK, Face-offs, SA and GA. 12th and 13th in GF and SF which some will no doubt see as evidence of our weakness, but still places us in the top half. Whichever way you look at it, we're a good team. The Toronto's and Colorado's of this world, every other team in the NHL gets to play them too, and guess what? They haven't managed to separate themselves from us by beating up on this supposed trash that we couldn't beat.

And I'm not blaming anything on the SO, but it is a fact that some teams points totals are flattered by it, and others aren't. We are in the latter category.

Sure, we're close in points. But we just finished the easiest part of our schedule. It only gets harder from here. Look how many good teams we've played in the last month, and look how many we play going forward. We're close in points because we had a hell of a November and then followed it up by going .500 against crappy teams.

Now, hopefully, we'll get the ball rolling and do some damage against good teams going forward. We've certainly got the talent for it. But don't fool yourself into thinking that we've played just as good as everybody else has. We haven't. We banked a bunch of points and then coasted. At one point we were the top team in the league, we've clearly fallen since then. And if we don't figure out some consistency we'll continue to slide. Will we miss the playoffs? Probably not. But I'm getting a little tired of hearing "look at the standings" or "if...if...if not for the shootout". Anybody who's thrilled with our performance up until now is delusional. There were some good things, and some bad things. But the goal is to compete for Cups. Not be happy with third in the division just because we're "not that far behind".

Because we're not that far ahead either. We need to play better, and with more consistency. I hope last night was a stepping stone for that.

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I could've sworn we just went 4-2 on a road trip. We are on a par with, or within touching distance of, every good team in the league. We're over halfway through the season, there's only 6 points separating the top-10 teams, and we are in that grouping. We're top-10 in points, PP, PK, Face-offs, SA and GA. 12th and 13th in GF and SF which some will no doubt see as evidence of our weakness, but still places us in the top half. Whichever way you look at it, we're a good team. The Toronto's and Colorado's of this world, every other team in the NHL gets to play them too, and guess what? They haven't managed to separate themselves from us by beating up on this supposed trash that we couldn't beat.

And I'm not blaming anything on the SO, but it is a fact that some teams points totals are flattered by it, and others aren't. We are in the latter category.

This is a good post. The Wings are 7-3 in their last ten games, which is as hot as any team has been. Yeah, we've lost to some teams that are below 500, and we've lost to some teams that are near the top of the league. But we've also won a lot of those games, and those losses aren't something that's excusive to the Red Wings. Every team has stinkers, losing streaks, loses against teams they should have beat, etc etc. Its a long season; s*** happens. The important thing in all of this is whether teams can tread water through adversity and not lose their footing in the standings. Minnesota is having trouble with this. Toronto is having trouble with this. Detroit is in good shape right now. We suffered a pretty nasty losing streak about a month ago, but still managed to get a lot of points from OT during that stretch. Right now the Wings are without their number 1 and number 2 goalie. Even so, they keep humming along, and as of this moment we're only three points out of first in our division, and Tampa has played two more games than us.

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Sure, we're close in points. But we just finished the easiest part of our schedule. It only gets harder from here. Look how many good teams we've played in the last month, and look how many we play going forward. We're close in points because we had a hell of a November and then followed it up by going .500 against crappy teams.

Now, hopefully, we'll get the ball rolling and do some damage against good teams going forward. We've certainly got the talent for it. But don't fool yourself into thinking that we've played just as good as everybody else has. We haven't. We banked a bunch of points and then coasted. At one point we were the top team in the league, we've clearly fallen since then. And if we don't figure out some consistency we'll continue to slide. Will we miss the playoffs? Probably not. But I'm getting a little tired of hearing "look at the standings" or "if...if...if not for the shootout". Anybody who's thrilled with our performance up until now is delusional. There were some good things, and some bad things. But the goal is to compete for Cups. Not be happy with third in the division just because we're "not that far behind".

Because we're not that far ahead either. We need to play better, and with more consistency. I hope last night was a stepping stone for that.

Were reallyy not that far ahead.

And Boston's getting back in the swing of things after an abysmal start.

It was good to see us get a win vs st. Louis, because they've been dominant lately.

But they also went through around ten games where they lost seven or eight this season.

Nashville's been pretty consistent this year.

So I'm looking forward to seeing how we play against them.

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Were reallyy not that far ahead.

And Boston's getting back in the swing of things after an abysmal start.

It was good to see us get a win vs st. Louis, because they've been dominant lately.

But they also went through around ten games where they lost seven or eight this season.

Nashville's been pretty consistent this year.

So I'm looking forward to seeing how we play against them.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the win last night. It was a good win against a good team. I'd like to see more of that. Because for a while we weren't doing that at all. I'm just a little sick of people explaining away marginal performances (i.e. losing in the shootout to Toronto, Colorado, Buffalo, Florida, etc.) by saying "well if it weren't for the shootout we'd be better". No we wouldn't. We'd MAYBE have more points, but it doesn't mean we'd be better. The fact that you're consistently going to overtime against bad teams is proof enough that you're not "better". I'm also sick of the "well we're only three points out of first" argument. At one point, a year ago, we were leading our division. By the end of the season we barely squeaked into the playoffs and got humiliated in the first round. And all you've got to do is compare the teams we played in the last two months, with the teams we play in the next two months to see just how little our record currently means.

The only way for this team to prove it's good, or a contender, or whatever, is to consistently beat good teams. That's it. And if you don't consistently beat good teams, or do lose to bad ones consistently, then getting rid of the shootout record or counting up points won't make a bit of difference.

It's a little bit like the Carolina Panthers in football. Sure they made the playoffs, but what does that mean? They had a losing record entering the playoffs. Anybody with a brain knew that they weren't good just because they made the playoffs.

Like I said, hopefully last night was the start of something good. A turn around. We sure looked really good. But I've got to see that kind of effort, consistently, before I think this team is going to make any noise from here on out.

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I'm not trying to take anything away from the win last night. It was a good win against a good team. I'd like to see more of that. Because for a while we weren't doing that at all. I'm just a little sick of people explaining away marginal performances (i.e. losing in the shootout to Toronto, Colorado, Buffalo, Florida, etc.) by saying "well if it weren't for the shootout we'd be better". No we wouldn't. We'd MAYBE have more points, but it doesn't mean we'd be better. The fact that you're consistently going to overtime against bad teams is proof enough that you're not "better". I'm also sick of the "well we're only three points out of first" argument. At one point, a year ago, we were leading our division. By the end of the season we barely squeaked into the playoffs and got humiliated in the first round. And all you've got to do is compare the teams we played in the last two months, with the teams we play in the next two months to see just how little our record currently means.

The only way for this team to prove it's good, or a contender, or whatever, is to consistently beat good teams. That's it. And if you don't consistently beat good teams, or do lose to bad ones consistently, then getting rid of the shootout record or counting up points won't make a bit of difference.

It's a little bit like the Carolina Panthers in football. Sure they made the playoffs, but what does that mean? They had a losing record entering the playoffs. Anybody with a brain knew that they weren't good just because they made the playoffs.

Like I said, hopefully last night was the start of something good. A turn around. We sure looked really good. But I've got to see that kind of effort, consistently, before I think this team is going to make any noise from here on out.

At this point last year we weren't 3 points out of first. We were leading the division like in the first quarter of the season that's it. We also had a bad injury bug last year.

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At this point last year we weren't 3 points out of first. We were leading the division like in the first quarter of the season that's it. We also had a bad injury bug last year.

Exactly my point. A lot can happen as the season drags on. So saying "well, we're only three points out of first" isn't saying much at all. The question I have is, are we three points out of first and getting better, or are we three points out of first and getting worse? Last night was a good start. We do that consistently and I'll say we're getting better. Lose to good teams and split with scrubs and I'll say we're getting worse. Where we stand right now means very little if we don't play better in the second half. Because playing the same way we have been lately, against better teams, isn't a recipe for success.

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I could've sworn we just went 4-2 on a road trip. We are on a par with, or within touching distance of, every good team in the league. We're over halfway through the season, there's only 6 points separating the top-10 teams, and we are in that grouping. We're top-10 in points, PP, PK, Face-offs, SA and GA. 12th and 13th in GF and SF which some will no doubt see as evidence of our weakness, but still places us in the top half. Whichever way you look at it, we're a good team. The Toronto's and Colorado's of this world, every other team in the NHL gets to play them too, and guess what? They haven't managed to separate themselves from us by beating up on this supposed trash that we couldn't beat.

And I'm not blaming anything on the SO, but it is a fact that some teams points totals are flattered by it, and others aren't. We are in the latter category.

Good post. To add some more of those new and shiny fancy stats to support it : Our PDO is 1.005, so we're not very lucky nor unlucky. Our Corsi% is 54.4 which makes us third in the league atm. This is not a fluke, this is real.

And kip of course a lot can happen. Maybe Z back will get bad again, maybe Datsyuk gets injured, pick what you want. But is it so hard to admit that we played a good season so far and deserve our spot in the standings because we are a good, arguably even a top team in the East ?

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