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Could the Wings be better off trading Pav & Hank for draft picks?

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I'm late to the thread, but PavelValerievichDatsyuk and krsmith hit it right on the head. I'm not going to write a pile-on novel, as they summed it up well imho. Yes, it's a discussion board for the exchange of ideas, but there is so much to be positive about if you look with any objectivity at what's in the pipeline. It's the best it's been since I started watching the Wings in 1983.

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Neither will get graded. I think both have a full nmc or at least a modified ntc clause. Teams like Buffalo, Arizona or Edmonton are not going to give up the chance to draft generational players like McEichel so the Wings won't get much in return...both are getting way past their prime and Pasha has one year left on his contract.

Another important point is this: the young guns need players to learn excellence from Pasha and Z learned from all time greats in Yzerman, Lidas and Chelios....so they only way they get traded is if they ask for a trade. Especially in Pasha case I would be fine with the guy deserves another cup and this team isn't going to be a cup contender for a few more years and that's all under the right circumstances meaning some prospects need to turn out much better than expected otherwise uuuuooooo

To sum it up its not gonna happen unless they ask for it and if they do the return wouldn't be all that great. So Wings have to hope that some of the young guns can lessen the blow once both aren't top players anymore.

If that doesn't happen well than better get a great pick and draft a top 6 center or Holland will need to do something he hasn't done in years bring in a top players.

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I was about to start a thread to say:

1. The team looks so much better without Franzen on the ice!

2. With Mrazek looking ready maybe Howard could land us some much needed assets?

I love Howard, don't get me wrong but we can't make Mrazek wait until Howard done and we can't carry them both! Howie's stock would be really high right now and would certainly bring in some good rewards.

Who cares about what they did with Franzen... pay him to be lazy and eat bags of dry stalks in the Press box rather than on the ice

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It won't happen for obvious reasons that have already been pointed out, however, it is a thought process that a lot of teams go through. It is possible that the team struggles after they are gone and have an extended period of struggles and the thought is that they could grab some rebuilding pieces to reduce the down years.

The Wings haven't had to worry about going through that though...so it is a bit out of sight out of mind. I don't think real bad years are coming too soon, but I'd be naïve to think it isn't possible.

Again, not going to happen, but if someone was thinking about it, the other big problem is that the teams that would even be interested (ignoring cap issues) would be someone like Pittsburgh, to load up for a big playoff push and even if they would give up a 1st rounder, it would be a late 1st rounder. The other issue being that the guys are getting older and I wonder what types of picks they'd bring in.

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Ya great idea let's trade zetterberg and datsyuk for the 29th and 30th overall

I was about to start a thread to say:

1. The team looks so much better without Franzen on the ice!

2. With Mrazek looking ready maybe Howard could land us some much needed assets?

I love Howard, don't get me wrong but we can't make Mrazek wait until Howard done and we can't carry them both! Howie's stock would be really high right now and would certainly bring in some good rewards.

Who cares about what they did with Franzen... pay him to be lazy and eat bags of dry stalks in the Press box rather than on the ice

Said the same before about trading howard in a package deal to get something big

We'll see how mrazek performs if he shows the wings organization something they just can't deny (which I think he wil) maybe they'll do something in the off season or in like 2 yrs

It's too bad it always takes injuries to this team to finally get some great kids showing what they can do

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I was about to start a thread to say:

1. The team looks so much better without Franzen on the ice!

2. With Mrazek looking ready maybe Howard could land us some much needed assets?

I love Howard, don't get me wrong but we can't make Mrazek wait until Howard done and we can't carry them both! Howie's stock would be really high right now and would certainly bring in some good rewards.

Who cares about what they did with Franzen... pay him to be lazy and eat bags of dry stalks in the Press box rather than on the ice

Yes, they can make Mrazek wait, and yes they can carry them both. Besides that, Mrazek is far from proven at the NHL level. For those of you who think he's can't miss, Jim Carey (not the actor) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=13060 and Blaine Lacher http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=2889, along with several more flash in the pan players say hello.

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Dickie, I understand your mindset that no prospect is a sure thing, and that like any prospect, Mrazek is not a "can't miss" goaltender. However, you can also say the same thing about Connor McDavid and Jack Eichel in this upcoming draft... Alexandre Daigle and Patrik Stefan say hello... But realistically, with the way scouting and player development is today, we will see less and less of these top prospects face plant like the aforementioned. No, Mrazek was not drafted first overall or even in the first round like these guys, but he has been regarded as one of the top goalie prospects not in the NHL for the last year or so. I agree though that he, along with any of our top prospects (Mantha) should not be labeled as the next big thing and thrown into the fire, not until they can prove they can get it done at the pro level on a consistent basis over time. So no, trading Howard should not even be a thought at this point, and yes we can carry both guys for at least another 2-3 years.

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