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If you've been to nhl.com recently (say in the past 12 hours or so) you may have noticed that they revamped their statistics page. Today's transition is part of a three step process to change the way we look at statistics, with the NHL partnering with SAP, who apparently does some stuff with the NBA, although I'm not a fan of basketball so I can't coment on the quality. But part of the rollout includes new types of stats, namely Corsi and Fenwick. Although they're not Corsi and Fenwick anymore. They're "shot attempts" and "unblocked shot attempts" which, while doesn't have that same charm, nor the nod to the folks who first implemented the use of these stats, its a much easier term for the average person to immediately understand without having to do a bit of research.

There are other features as well, such as being able to look pretty far back into the past at various stats. The Detroit Cougars are listed on there, for example (George Hay was their leading scorer with 35 points back in 1928). It looks like the site will also include average shot distance, zone starts, goals and assists per 20 minutes and 60 minutes, penalties taken, penalties drawn, and probably some more stuff that I don't know about.

I'm still meandering around the new interface, and checking out all the new features, but as a fan of statistics (or really any new way to look at the game), I'm pretty excited to have "offical" numbers to work with now. We should also expect to see more new stuff roll out over the next year or so as they add features and statistics to the website.

PS, Wings are currently #1 in the league in Corsi against...er, shot attempts against.

edit: for those of you interested in more info, Puck Daddy Blog has a nice summary of what to expect in all three phases here:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/inside-nhl-com-s-revolutionary-new-features--stats-031047083.html

do check it out, there's some pretty cool stuff planned.

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Tatar is also 6th in the league in SAT, which is basically team shot attempts for minus shot attempts against while Tatar is on the ice. This could be due to a disproportionate amout of offensive zone starts comparted to defensive zone starts, but I'm still trying to find whether zone starts are on the site or not.

EDIT: found it! Tatar actually only gets 53% of his faceoffs in the offensive zone, so there you go, although I already see a flaw in how they calculate offensive zone starts. Its calculated by [100 x offensive zone faceoffs/ (offensive zone faceoffs + defensive zone faceoffs)], so its not taking into account neutral zone faceoffs, therefore its not actually a percentage of the total amount of faceoffs a player has taken. But in this case we can say that Tatar gets roughly the same amount of offensive zone faceoffs as defensive zone faceoffs. And that makes his corsi look a bit more impressive, although upon second look, there doesn't seem to be much deviation from 50% for the Wings. Lashoff has the biggest proportion of offensive zone starts at 61%, while Pulkkinen interestingly enough has the least at 46%. KRsmith will feel validated in that Smith only has 47% of his starts in the offensize zone, potentially supporting his theory that Smith perhaps isn't being utilized in a manner suited for offensive production (but I'll let him take that debate).

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If you've been to nhl.com recently (say in the past 12 hours or so) you may have noticed that they revamped their statistics page. Today's transition is part of a three step process to change the way we look at statistics, with the NHL partnering with SAP, who apparently does some stuff with the NBA, although I'm not a fan of basketball so I can't coment on the quality. But part of the rollout includes new types of stats, namely Corsi and Fenwick. Although they're not Corsi and Fenwick anymore. They're "shot attempts" and "unblocked shot attempts" which, while doesn't have that same charm, nor the nod to the folks who first implemented the use of these stats, its a much easier term for the average person to immediately understand without having to do a bit of research.

There are other features as well, such as being able to look pretty far back into the past at various stats. The Detroit Cougars are listed on there, for example (George Hay was their leading scorer with 35 points back in 1928). It looks like the site will also include average shot distance, zone starts, goals and assists per 20 minutes and 60 minutes, penalties taken, penalties drawn, and probably some more stuff that I don't know about.

I'm still meandering around the new interface, and checking out all the new features, but as a fan of statistics (or really any new way to look at the game), I'm pretty excited to have "offical" numbers to work with now. We should also expect to see more new stuff roll out over the next year or so as they add features and statistics to the website.

PS, Wings are currently #1 in the league in Corsi against...er, shot attempts against.

edit: for those of you interested in more info, Puck Daddy Blog has a nice summary of what to expect in all three phases here:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/inside-nhl-com-s-revolutionary-new-features--stats-031047083.html

do check it out, there's some pretty cool stuff planned.

I kind of hope they start using those smart jerseys that keep track of each and every players stats, and all of the other crazy info on ice happenings.

But chea, this is pretty damn cool.

Thanks for sharing the find.

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