Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted March 7, 2015 So, I was having a discussion with a friend of mine regarding Detroit's restricted free agents (ones who could make the team next year) - how much each would cost and the term they would receive. We disagreed over Gus' RFA status. My interpretation is that Nyquist would still be RFA if he signed a one-year deal, but not two years. He's 25-years-old and his birthday is September 1st, which means he would be a RFA in 2016-17, but not 2017-18. So they could sign him for one year, and he'd be still be RFA next offseason, but not the following one. This seems simple to me, but I could be wrong? In the 2017 offseason, he would be 27... thus qualifying for UFA status, right? "Any Player who either has seven (7) Accrued Seasons or is 27 years of age or older as of June 30 of the end of a League Year, shall, if his most recent SPC has expired, with such expiry occurring either as of June 30 of such League Year or June 30 of any prior League Year, become an Unrestricted Free Agent." Edit: Can a mod fix the title? Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 7, 2015 If he signs a one year deal he'd be RFA again. There is no reason for him to accept a one year deal though, and I doubt Detroit would want to do that either. If they do and he has another big year, his salary would go up. Nyquist and his agent will want 2 years, so he can be a UFA as soon as possible, Detroit will push for longer term, and I think he'll end up signing for 4-5 years at $5 mil per. 1 Jesusberg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) If he signs a one year deal he'd be RFA again. There is no reason for him to accept a one year deal though, and I doubt Detroit would want to do that either. If they do and he has another big year, his salary would go up. Nyquist and his agent will want 2 years, so he can be a UFA as soon as possible, Detroit will push for longer term, and I think he'll end up signing for 4-5 years at $5 mil per. I'm of a similar mindset - my guess was/is a four-year deal worth 4.2-4.5 per. My buddy brought up Z's deal after his ELC (I think it was 2.4 or 2.8 million, right?), and Tatar's bridge deal. I don't think it's the same situation, especially considering he's only got a year of RFA status and not two. Edited March 7, 2015 by Jesusberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted March 7, 2015 I think he'll get something somilar to Reilly Smith's new deal. 2-3 years at around 3-3.5. 2 KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 and UpstateNYRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426 Report post Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) ^this sounds bout rite... I would think 4 years, but same ballpark Edited March 12, 2015 by KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Delete Edited March 12, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 13, 2015 I'm assuming Nyquist will get a contract similar to what Tatar got last year, and Smith will get a contract like DeKeyer's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aznknight 139 Report post Posted March 13, 2015 Nyq will ask for 3.9 for 2 years he will want that raise and security. Kenny will say 5 years 3.7 cuz he's our future. I hope it doesn't end up like with Fil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted March 13, 2015 I'd rather sign him to a long term deal now at age 25, then when he gets close to thirty and wind up with a high paying player on the downside of his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted March 13, 2015 I'm assuming Nyquist will get a contract similar to what Tatar got last year, and Smith will get a contract like DeKeyer's. Nyquist is more proven than Tatar was last year so he'll get more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) It's probably good for us (contract wise) that Nyquist hasn't gone on a crazy goal scoring tear like he did last year. Edited March 14, 2015 by number9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvanpop 98 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Give him 6 mil/ year for 8 years. Probably will be a steal later on or throw money at him just cause Edited March 14, 2015 by mvanpop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 mvanpop... 6M for 8 years?... I hope that's a joke... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 mvanpop... 6M for 8 years?... I hope that's a joke... Fur real. 8 mil for 6 years and a full NTC is probably better 1 WingsallTheway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 He should get Tatar money + contract Tatar has been much better than nyquist and IMO Ive always felt like he would be, but Nyquist's ceiling is probably higher. Gus doesn't seem capable of playing against top opposition right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) He should get Tatar money + contract Tatar has been much better than nyquist and IMO Ive always felt like he would be, but Nyquist's ceiling is probably higher. Gus doesn't seem capable of playing against top opposition right now A bridge deal like Tatar's isn't going to work here. That would actually put the team in a bad position. Nyquist might want 2-3 years, but no way management does. As DD mentioned, Gus wants to get to UFA status as soon as possible. He's an unrestricted free agent after this deal, anyway. Might as well try to get him to sign for 4-5 years at a reasonable cap hit - anywhere from 4-4.5 million (good chance he'll try for 5). There's no chance in hell he signs for 2.75 million. I'll eat my socks if Gus signs for less than 4 million. Edited March 14, 2015 by Jesusberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvanpop 98 Report post Posted March 14, 2015 mvanpop... 6M for 8 years?... I hope that's a joke... Yeah sorry I thought I wrote it sarcastic enough but if you could get him for 4.5-5 for long term that definitely would become a deal in about 3 years if the cap continues to rise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted March 18, 2015 Nyq will ask for 3.9 for 2 years he will want that raise and security. Kenny will say 5 years 3.7 cuz he's our future. I hope it doesn't end up like with Fil I'm sure he'll head to Tampa next Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted March 18, 2015 I'm sure he'll head to Tampa next That's funny cause I was cruising the Tampa forums the other day because of how flips points have fallen off recently (last time I checked they were saying he was the best 2nd center in the game and even would be a great 1st center and how underrated he is) and they were all ragging on flip about his pass mentality, and how soft he is, some were even saying, I can see what wings fans were complaining about now... Lol I find it funny that he is not being hailed as the second coming anymore. Also before the season started they were saying he would get 70 points this year. Lol 2 MrazekFanBoy and number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted March 18, 2015 But imagine if we had him now instead of Weiss.. I'd be more optimistic about a playoff run that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted March 18, 2015 But imagine if we had him now instead of Weiss.. I'd be more optimistic about a playoff run that's for sure. If Weiss was given the same opportunities and length of leash that flip got, he would be a much more integral part of our team. Weiss could get a hat trick and two assists on the 4th line and 10 minutes ice time and the next game only gets 7 minutes. The guy is playing well cause the coach won't show him any confidence or give him a real chance to shine. He gets put with grinders and pk'ers 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted March 18, 2015 If Weiss was given the same opportunities and length of leash that flip got, he would be a much more integral part of our team. Weiss could get a hat trick and two assists on the 4th line and 10 minutes ice time and the next game only gets 7 minutes. The guy is playing well cause the coach won't show him any confidence or give him a real chance to shine. He gets put with grinders and pk'ers I was thinking that to.. Maybe if Babs leaves we'll be better off he's a great coach but is he the best fit for OUR team? I want him to stay but at the same time I won't be furious if he leaves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted March 18, 2015 He'll get a better deal than Tatar but only slightly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
