Losing Streak affecting Babcock's Decision?

[wings87 1,290]

Blashill is a great coaching prospect, but just like any prospect there is no guarantee he will be successful. Are all of you guys calling for Babcock to leave willing to suffer through the ups and downs of a rookie coach?

This is not a top team that's under achieving, in fact up until a couple weeks ago this team was actually over reaching its true potential. The current Wings team is made up of a couple aging stars, a few inconsistent rising stars, and no top paring D-Men. Pav is still a top player, but as much as I like him Z is no longer the same he once was, and neither is Kronwall. Gus is in a major sophomore slump and Jimmy is Jimmy. Getting rid of Babcock will not change the make-up of this team, In fact I think he's done a marvelous job with the team he's got.

What has caused the slump of late is not the coaching staff not being prepared (even though Babs is prone to blaming the coaches when the team loses), Its the fact that the players don't come to play every night. If the players don't want to play, I don't care if the coach is Blashill or Bowen the team will not win. The recent team meeting was called not because the coaches have sucked, but because the players have. I know its become the norm in today's sports culture to get rid of the coach when the team struggles, and sometimes a change is warranted, but not in this case. For me the best case scenario, would be Babs staying, Holland finally making a drastic upgrade to the team, and the young guys learn to play with consistency.

[Internet.Unknown 422]

Blashill vs. Babcock? People can't be serious! Without any NHL head coaching experience, Blashill is the consolation prize to Babcock's proven winner.

Edited March 22, 2015 by Internet.Unknown

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Blashill vs. Babcock? People can't be serious! Without any NHL head coaching experience, Blashill is the consolation prize to Babcock's proven winner.

It isn't solely about that obviously. You can't get experience by coaching in the minors forever. Blashill deserves a shot eventually and he seems to be an ideal transition given the Wings current roster makeup and his ability to develop young players. I'm not going to be irate if Babs comes back because he's a great coach overall, but I won't be weeping if he decides to leave either. Sometimes you just need a fresh voice.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

Part of me wants Babcock to stay and another part of me thinks he's been over praised and I wouldn't care if we lost him ... A change of scenery could benefit both

Whatever will be will be

[number9 3,297]

Don't know whatcha got till it's gone I guess

[Rivalred 630]

Don't know whatcha got till it's gone I guess

Haven't been be same since Scotty left

[wings87 1,290]

Nvm

Edited March 22, 2015 by wings87

[kipwinger 8,521]

Has Babcock grown to such mythic status that its absurd to even consider another coach? Because if he is that good, why don't we have more cups under his tenure?

Why is it so hard for people to acknowledge that he can be a good coach, but the wrong one for this team, at the same time?

[number9 3,297]

Haven't been be same since Scotty left

This makes the 2008 and 2009 playoffs sad

Edited March 22, 2015 by number9

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

Look what the Bowmans did to the Hawks... I think Holland should be demoted to head of Scouting and Babcock should be promoted to GM or whatever Shanny is for the leafs then we bring in Blashill as our head coach babs will work em all like puppets

[number9 3,297]

Has Babcock grown to such mythic status that its absurd to even consider another coach? Because if he is that good, why don't we have more cups under his tenure?

Why is it so hard for people to acknowledge that he can be a good coach, but the wrong one for this team, at the same time?

I'll ask you the same I ask everyone. Who do you want? Rookie Blashill? Random fired coach from other team? Name it.

Look what the Bowmans did to the Hawks... I think Holland should be demoted to head of Scouting and Babcock should be promoted to GM or whatever Shanny is for the leafs then we bring in Blashill as our head coach babs will work em all like puppets

And we hire the bowmans???

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

No I think Babcock is smarter than the Bowmans which is why I want him to be the GM

I'm just spitballing here boys lol not being serious but would that be terrible?

[number9 3,297]

No I think Babcock is smarter than the Bowmans which is why I want him to be the GM

I'm just spitballing here boys lol not being serious but would that be terrible?

...Cause he's a coach, not a GM

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

Yzerman was a player now he's a GM what's your point?

[kipwinger 8,521]

I'll ask you the same I ask everyone. Who do you want? Rookie Blashill? Random fired coach from other team? Name it.

And we hire the bowmans???

Mike Babcock was a rookie once too. I'd take Blashill, or any number of other coaches provided they fit the team. I'm not saying let babs walk for no reason. But I don't think that its unrealistic to think another coach could get more out of this team. Quenneville and Sutter were cast offs from other teams too. Something tells me their organizations aren't regretting the fact that they took a flier on a fired coach.

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

He said he wants more power which to me, suggests that him getting a job in the front office isn't total madness

Don't people call him a hockey genius lol

[number9 3,297]

Yzerman was a player now he's a GM what's your point?

...Yzerman was trained as a GM under Holland. He was never a coach. Is that an easy enough point for you to grasp?

Mike Babcock was a rookie once too. I'd take Blashill, or any number of other coaches provided they fit the team. I'm not saying let babs walk for no reason. But I don't think that its unrealistic to think another coach could get more out of this team. Quenneville and Sutter were cast offs from other teams too. Something tells me their organizations aren't regretting the fact that they took a flier on a fired coach.

Babs is easily one of the top 5 coaches in the league. You don't just walk away from a guy like that if you can keep him. Qvill and Sutter have done great under elite teams sure, but Babs got this team into the playoffs these least few years when we were pretty much counted out.

He said he wants more power which to me, suggests that him getting a job in the front office isn't total madness

Don't people call him a hockey genius lol

Source?

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

I didn't know that buddy sorry

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Has Babcock grown to such mythic status that its absurd to even consider another coach? Because if he is that good, why don't we have more cups under his tenure?

Why is it so hard for people to acknowledge that he can be a good coach, but the wrong one for this team, at the same time?

Because the teams haven't been good enough lately

[MrazekFanBoy 223]

Source? Lol haven't you been reading these articles about the possibility of him leaving or resigning every other one they are always suggesting that

[trule23 119]

Is babs one of the best coaches in the nhl? yes, but has he been as effective as he used to be with THIS team? definitely not, we both need a change of scenery, it would benefit him and us. Babs is great but i think we both need a change. I think Blashill would do just fine, speed bumps? of course but what do you expect? picture it when all our young guns get seasoned and blashill is a seasoned nhl coach we could be a dominate team again

[kipwinger 8,521]

I don't expect him to win ever single year, but you guys are downplaying some of the really great teams he had and lost with. His teams were not mediocre in 2005 or 2009. I get irritated when people act like he's had nothing to work with. He's had good, to great teams since joining the wings. He's got one cup. He's not such a super duper coach that its anathema to even consider life after Babcock.

[number9 3,297]

Source? Lol haven't you been reading these articles about the possibility of him leaving or resigning every other one they are always suggesting that

So you don't have a source where he says he wants to be in a system where he has more power I take it?

I wouldn't believe everything you read on the internet friend. Especially if the person it's about never actually said it.

I don't expect him to win ever single year, but you guys are downplaying some of the really great teams he had and lost with. His teams were not mediocre in 2005 or 2009. I get irritated when people act like he's had nothing to work with. He's had good, to great teams since joining the wings. He's got one cup. He's not such a super duper coach that its anathema to even consider life after Babcock.

So then you want Blashill? a rookie with no cups? Just cause he might be able to do what Babs didn't?

[wings87 1,290]

Has Babcock grown to such mythic status that its absurd to even consider another coach? Because if he is that good, why don't we have more cups under his tenure?

Why is it so hard for people to acknowledge that he can be a good coach, but the wrong one for this team, at the same time?

How many more cups would you like? Since Babcocks tenure began only 2 teams have won more than 1 cup. And lately the talent just hasn't been there to win.

I'd like to know why you think Babs can't manage the current team? No sarcasm involved I'd genuinely like to know?

[kipwinger 8,521]

So you don't have a source where he says he wants to be in a system where he has more power I take it?

I wouldn't believe everything you read on the internet friend. Especially if the person it's about never actually said it.

So then you want Blashill? a rookie with no cups? Just cause he might be able to do what Babs didn't?

Yes. Every great coach was a rookie once. I don't see how that precludes someone from being in the discussion. Further I don't think this team is right on the cusp of greatness. It'll be a year or two before we are an elite team again. When our young guys enter their primes. At which point blashill wouldn't be a rookie anymore. He would, however, still be the coach who has won with these guys, developed these guys, built report with these guys, and (hopefully) brought a fresh perspective to their abilities, and dynamic.