derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Well, this sucks. Two games ahead, that's two chances to get out of this slump. LGW ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 giveaways, goaltending, d zone coverage, careless passes, weak plays. just piss poor. even if we make the playoffs nothing good will come of it unless we fix something real quick. i don't know how we go from so good to so bad so quickly. it can obviously be fixed since we were good. i just don't know how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I'm not worried about goaltending. It's the other positions that are sucking I'm not worried about goaltending. It's the other positions that are sucking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 This team sucks. Whoever keeps telling them to just let the other team score all the time every game needs to shut up and die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Uncivilized. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 See, even rick zombo doesn't think we're making the playoffs now. Hey now. I didn't say that. I was merely saying that maybe The Todd would do well here if Babcock leaves. I'd probably rather Blashill just because he'd probably use the kids properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 The way the defense plays, this team lives and dies by their goaltending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Hey now. I didn't say that. I was merely saying that maybe The Todd would do well here if Babcock leaves. I'd probably rather Blashill just because he'd probably use the kids properly. This isn't Babs fault, this is Howard's fault. Remember? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Wing 1,521 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Over? DId you say over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Yes there is a touch more urgency with Ottawa and Boston just a couple games back but as you'll recall the last month of 2002 heading into the playoffs that team couldn't find their ass with both hands either. 4 Desert Rat, Hockeymom1960, number9 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsAlways 486 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 So many factors are to blame for the way this team is playing, it's unfair to focus on a single one. I'm surprised nobody blames the schedule, not about who we play but rather the way it seems like every time we win we have 4 days off before the next matchup. It's kind of hard to stay in shape mentally like that. If we remind Yzerman who he used to play for next game all will be square with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Over? DId you say over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Yes there is a touch more urgency with Ottawa and Boston just a couple games back but as you'll recall the last month of 2002 heading into the playoffs that team couldn't find their ass with both hands either. That team wasn't fighting for an 8 seed, though. They had the Presidents trophy wrapped up and were resting HOF starters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Wing 1,521 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 That team wasn't fighting for an 8 seed, though. They had the Presidents trophy wrapped up and were resting HOF starters. I understand and like I said it's a bit more pressing w Boston and Team Cheeseburger but they weren't resting the HOF guys every night at the same time. Chelios at the time called the team "embarrassing" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief You can't hold an entire team responsible for the play of a few slumping individuals. For if you do, shouldn't we blame the entire team system? And if the whole team system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our hockey institutions in general? I put it to you LGW *points* isn't this an indictment of our entire sports society? Well, say what you want about the Red Wings, but I'm not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth pro sports! Gentlemen Edited March 27, 2015 by number9 2 Desert Rat and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliforniaWingsFan 464 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Babcock's post-game interview was very interesting regarding the goaltending situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themcityblues 249 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Put Cleary in. I'm not kidding. He may not be able to skate, but he grounds the team, stabilizes them, gets super gritty in atmospheres like these, has good veteran leadership and can lead in the locker room. How many games has he played? 9? I'd just pay the dude a million and get him in there. Cleary's a winner late in the year and in the off-season. He's won a cup. Get the guy in and get one of these kids out. Just my opinion Also, Howard sucks, but I always say that so it doesn't really matter. Honestly, though, I didn't think he was that bad this game. The first goal was a tough redirect up high, and the one off the Detroit D in front of the net was weird. Neither were Howie's fault, and I blame him for everything! The other goal had a Shark right in the slot -- the best scoring area in hockey -- and he just banged it in. Again, not something that makes me think Howard sucks... but I still think Howard sucks. I think Mrazek getting the next start is to shake this team up, although Babcock did seem pretty harsh on 'ole Jimmy today. I'm hard on him most the time, but this game wasn't really one of them. Edited March 27, 2015 by themcityblues 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 We are going to be an easy out for whoever in the 1st round. If we don't fall into 9th place that is. 1 DRW Dominance reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arag 308 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 We are going to be an easy out for whoever in the 1st round. If we don't fall into 9th place that is. Wings are trying to place themselves vs Rangers in the first round. The team is anxious to take a long summer off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings! 179 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 The way the defense plays, this team dies by their goaltending. Fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 324 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 The Leafs went 4-10-1 last March during their regular season collapse. The Wings are currently 4-7-1 in March. They are Leafing their way right out of the playoffs. 1 pondrocket reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 i missed the first two periods and just watched the highlights. first goal obvious turnover, howard couldn't see it though second goal, terrible coverage but still something you expect your goalie to stop! not like it was roofed third goal was flat out terrible fourth goal, kronwall leads nyquist with a suicide pass almost in his skates, turned over, puck in net with a perfect shot----this has been our biggest problem lately----putting the puck where they are instead of where they are going to be or just flat out not putting it in a position where our forwards can do anything with it fifth goal was just as bad as the third----that's gotta be stopped SJ had plenty of their own turnovers last night too which led to a couple of ours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I seriously don't understand what the hell is going on with this team. I don't expect us to be the first in the division, or conference, and didn't expect that to start the season. So no big loss. But I also didn't expect a late season collapse either. We're a better team, across the board, than we were a year ago, or even two years ago. Five 20 goal scorers. Bigger. Faster. Healthier. Oh the defense is bad? How's it worse than it was? Dekeyser is better than a year ago. Quincey is better than a year ago. Kronwall's not worse. Smith's no worse. Zidlicky is a huge upgrade. Only Ericsson is playing worse than he did a year or two ago. Goaltending? Same deal. Jimmy's not been great since his injury. But he wasn't great a year ago either. And this year at least Mrazek has been good enough to win games. AND Jimmy was only bad for the second half of the year. He was excellent to begin the year. We're a better team. A healthier team. An improved team. In every regard. And we're getting the same result. I don't understand. Edited March 27, 2015 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I seriously don't understand what the hell is going on with this team. I don't expect us to be the first in the division, or conference, and didn't expect that to start the season. So no big loss. But I also didn't expect a late season collapse either. We're a better team, across the board, than we were a year ago, or even two years ago. Five 20 goal scorers. Bigger. Faster. Healthier. Oh the defense is bad? How's it worse than it was? Dekeyser is better than a year ago. Quincey is better than a year ago. Kronwall's not worse. Smith's no worse. Zidlicky is a huge upgrade. Only Ericsson is playing worse than he did a year or two ago. Goaltending? Same deal. Jimmy's not been great since his injury. But he wasn't great a year ago either. And this year at least Mrazek has been good enough to win games. AND Jimmy was only bad for the second half of the year. He was excellent to begin the year. We're a better team. A healthier team. An improved team. In every regard. And we're getting the same result. I don't understand. The full regular season grind is different than what a player on a call up experiences. I'm look specifically at how things have gone with Tatar but more so with Nyquist down the stretch, and I see guys that are still learning to play at an NHL level. These rough patches are a result of that, and considering we're leaning heavily on these guys to produce, their struggles weigh on the team heavier. On top of that, Nyquist in particular has been a turnover machine lately which isn't helping at either end of the ice. Couple that with having the D that we have, ongoing Weiss in the lineup weirdness, Howard struggling, and Mrazek being a rookie, and it really isn't so surprising. I said it numerous times earlier in the season, things were going great, but it was absolutely a best-case situation. I hoped it would continue to go that way, but I'm not shocked it hasn't, nor am I incredibly upset. If we had kept up or find a way to get to that level again for the playoffs, I'm convinced this team can make some noise and contend. But if we don't get there this year, it's not the end of the world. We've seen what they're capable of and it's a fairly bright future. I think it's clear at this point though that the team still has holes that need to be filled if you don't want to rely on guys overachieving to be a consistently solid team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Win as a team, lose as a team. I love them, regardless, but it's hard to watch when they are this lost, this close to the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fonzarelli 73 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Ericsson has been horrendous this year and needs to be benched. Marchenko or Ouellette are much better. In the off season, I would love to see Eberle, from Edmonton, on our team. I would gladly trade Nyquist or Tatar for him. These guys need a wake up call and a trade of that magnitude would rattle a few of them. Ericsson would also garner some interest and I would gladly put him on the market. I know that this is controversial but something needs to be done. With a new coach next year, the Wings may see some improvements. Obviously Babcock can't fix the problem, but I'll reserve my final judgement after The next game. It's crucial and if the Wings come out flat, then I say let Babs walk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 i missed the first two periods and just watched the highlights. first goal obvious turnover, howard couldn't see it though second goal, terrible coverage but still something you expect your goalie to stop! not like it was roofed third goal was flat out terrible fourth goal, kronwall leads nyquist with a suicide pass almost in his skates, turned over, puck in net with a perfect shot----this has been our biggest problem lately----putting the puck where they are instead of where they are going to be or just flat out not putting it in a position where our forwards can do anything with it fifth goal was just as bad as the third----that's gotta be stopped SJ had plenty of their own turnovers last night too which led to a couple of ours You forgo about the sixth goal, where Kronwall was soft on the puck again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
