rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Trade Howard for some help on D. Overpay Niemi to be Mrazek's veteran back-up, on a two year deal. Or keep Howard and Mrazek. And split starts. I'd be OK with either option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Trade Howard for some help on D. Overpay Niemi to be Mrazek's veteran back-up, on a two year deal. Or keep Howard and Mrazek. And split starts. I'd be OK with either option. Either way we need help on D LOL 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 There are always decent backups on the UFA market every year. Trade howard in a package for help - could be a 2C or preferably a top 4 D. SJS, WPG, PHI, NYI all need an upgrade at G... Like a jumbo Joe and Mark Edward Vlasic? package in Howard Weiss and a 2nd than maybe id be all for ditching him Trade Howard for some help on D. Overpay Niemi to be Mrazek's veteran back-up, on a two year deal. Or keep Howard and Mrazek. And split starts. I'd be OK with either option. id ******* love Niemi but I don't know if he would want a backup roll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Either way we need help on D LOL There should be some d available through trade ... Got a feeling Phaneuf will be a wing when it's all said and done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I really like the idea of trading Howard + for Thornton. Maybe Howard + jurco+ prospect for Thornton. Then go after phaneuf + Reimer for hopefully weiss + smith + kindl + helm. Franzen goes on LTIR This would give us tremendous center depth and allow hank to play with pavel. Abby- datsyuk- z Cole/ big body FA- joe t- pulk ( that shot with joe) Nyquist- sheahan- tatar Miller- glenny- Ferraro ( great 4th line/ shutdown) Kronwall- phaneuf Dd- Quincey E- marchenko/ oullete Mrazek Reimer I'm not sure how this is cap wise, but I think that team looks way better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Like a jumbo Joe and Mark Edward Vlasic? package in Howard Weiss and a 2nd than maybe id be all for ditching him idf****** love Niemi but I don't know if he would want a backup roll I really don't think they'd give up two productive guys for that. But Doug Wilson does seem to have it out for Thornton... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Like a jumbo Joe and Mark Edward Vlasic? package in Howard Weiss and a 2nd than maybe id be all for ditching him idf****** love Niemi but I don't know if he would want a backup roll San Jose won't want anything to do with weiss ... It'll be a nice dream to land vlasic but I can't see them trading him as well as much as I'd want him to be a wing As for joe thornton forget it we need younger bigger bodies and he's older and has a high cap number 2 no no's ... Hank and pav are 34-36 ... That's good enough upfront for aging forwards Also got mule but who knows how that'll turn out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Thornton would be a good short term fix and likely realistic with what holland will be willing to give up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Thornton would be a good short term fix and likely realistic with what holland will be willing to give up. Ya I believe adding Thornton and phaneuf would put this team over the top Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 San Jose won't want anything to do with weiss ... It'll be a nice dream to land vlasic but I can't see them trading him as well as much as I'd want him to be a wing As for joe thornton forget it we need younger bigger bodies and he's older and has a high cap number 2 no no's ... Hank and pav are 34-36 ... That's good enough upfront for aging forwards Also got mule but who knows how that'll turn out Thornton is 6'4 and put up near ppg this year. He still has it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Thornton is 6'4 and put up near ppg this year. He still has it. Ya and he relieves pressure from Pav and z, I also believe he and pulk together would be amazing 1 sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Thornton is 6'4 and put up near ppg this year. He still has it. Cap numbers like 6 though no? ... Isn't he like 36? ... Rather get someone you get who's 6'4 and fast and hits .. Wouldn't be pissed at big joe coming but think we need more help at d and don't wanna give up good prospects for joe and I'd rather trade howard for a d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 package Howard for Jumbo Joe. He can center Z. I actually would really like this, but Thornton wont leave California. If it did happen, could you imagine, Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Abby & Tatar-Thornton-Nyquist, then with Sheahan-Jurco-Helm thats 2 solid lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I actually would really like this, but Thornton wont leave California. If it did happen, could you imagine, Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Abby & Tatar-Thornton-Nyquist, then with Sheahan-Jurco-Helm thats 2 solid lines. I'd put pulkinen with Thornton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 Cap numbers like 6 though no? ... Isn't he like 36? ... Rather get someone you get who's 6'4 and fast and hits .. Wouldn't be pissed at big joe coming but think we need more help at d and don't wanna give up good prospects for joe and I'd rather trade howard for a d Howard+Ericsson for Burns++? I really like Burns, can play defense or wing, brings a physical game and puts pucks in the net. 0% chance it happens but it'd be nice. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I'd put pulkinen with Thornton I didnt think about that, I like that idea! Jonathan Cheechoo scored over 50 on a line with Thornton, that could be an awesome line! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I didnt think about that, I like that idea! Jonathan Cheechoo scored over 50 on a line with Thornton, that could be an awesome line! Exactly. Then a 3rd with tatar- Sheahan- nyquist would dominate other teams. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) If we traded Howard, here is a list of UFA goaltenders that could come in and be the backup: (I erased some of starters & 3rd/4th string guys) http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2014/11/25/2015-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-goaltenders/ Viktor Fasth Karri Ramo Michal Neuvirth Josh Harding Jonas Gustavsson Peter Budaj Jhonas Enroth Thomas Greiss Ray Emery Dan Ellis Jason LaBarbera Curtis McElhinney Richard Bachman Scott Clemmensen Cam Talbot Anders Lindback Edited April 30, 2015 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I think both guys should split evenly. Can't go wrong with 41/41. Both good goalies and since they both lack consistency this could be a huge advantage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) If we traded Howard, here is a list of UFA goaltenders that could come in and be the backup: (I erased some of the 3rd/4th string guys) http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2014/11/25/2015-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-goaltenders/ Antti Niemi Viktor Fasth Karri Ramo Michal Neuvirth Josh Harding Jonas Gustavsson Peter Budaj Jhonas Enroth Thomas Greiss Ray Emery Dan Ellis Devan Dubnyk Jason LaBarbera Curtis McElhinney Richard Bachman Scott Clemmensen Cam Talbot Anders Lindback If there's one thing I really think Holland has a tendency of nailing, it's finding a good backup at a great price. I'm really not worried about whatever he would scrape up, because historically, he really has done a good job in this area. This is also why I worry less about trading Howard than some might. Edited April 30, 2015 by gcom007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 If there's one thing I really think Holland has a tendency of nailing, it's finding a good backup at a great price. I'm really not worried about whatever he would scrape up, because historically, he really has done a good job in this area. Ya I agree. And I believe we need to trade Howard because he has value and we aren't good enough to be able to have a Howard mrazek tandem. We need to get an asset for Howard and ride mrazek. I know it's risky, but at this point you take the risk because pav and z's window is almost shut 1 PumpIron reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 If we traded Howard, here is a list of UFA goaltenders that could come in and be the backup: (I erased some of starters & 3rd/4th string guys) http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2014/11/25/2015-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-goaltenders/ Viktor Fasth Karri Ramo Michal Neuvirth Josh Harding Jonas Gustavsson Peter Budaj Jhonas Enroth Thomas Greiss Ray Emery Dan Ellis Jason LaBarbera Curtis McElhinney Richard Bachman Scott Clemmensen Cam Talbot Anders Lindback these 3 stand out as the perfect backup because they can also take the starting roll very well too if need be especially EMERY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I didnt think about that, I like that idea! Jonathan Cheechoo scored over 50 on a line with Thornton, that could be an awesome line! So just sign Cheechoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 I actually would really like this, but Thornton wont leave California. If it did happen, could you imagine, Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Abby & Tatar-Thornton-Nyquist, then with Sheahan-Jurco-Helm thats 2 solid lines. How about: Z - Thornton - Tatar Abby - Datsyuk - Nyquist I say this because Thornton + Z and Tatar combo wud be a heavy scoring line. I say Datsyuk with Nyquist because. Well Z and Nyquist didn't go so well for us. Dats still has the ability to make his winger look real good. Even if it's not like it used to be. Abby wud be the powerforward for Dats. But we wont get Thornton. So lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted April 30, 2015 these 3 stand out as the perfect backup because they can also take the starting roll very well too if need be especially EMERY ...but then the goalie is the toughest guy on the team. I find that troubling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
