jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I think Franson is underrated, due to him being a healthy scratch at times with Nashville. The Preds are loaded on the back end, so it was hard for him to crack a lineup that was hot before the trade took place. They struggled after the trade but it would be foolish to believe Franson had anything to do with that. He's a really good defenseman and in my opinion is exactly what this team needs. His value is at an all time low right now and it would be a great time to pick him up.Hell still sign a big contract.Idk now comfortable I'd be paying him ~$5m a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Franson is a solid option , he is big tough and for the right price a nice addition. The question is at what kind of money does he look ? If it's north of 4 stay away If we can't get Phaneuf an Ehrhoff Franson combo wouldn't be bad and at least would provide some options for Blashill Something around 6 years 27 million sounds fair for both Edited June 12, 2015 by frankgrimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Franson is a solid option , he is big tough and for the right price a nice addition. The question is at what kind of money does he look ? If it's north of 4 stay away If we can't get Phaneuf an Ehrhoff Franson combo wouldn't be bad and at least would provide some options for Blashill Something around 6 years 27 million sounds fair for both I do not want erhoff that long.He signed a deal in Pittsburgh hoping it would bloat his numbers ala niskanen, and it backfired.. when he was actually healthy, he didn't play well at all. I may be fine with signing him to the three year deal Holland offered him last off season, but at this point he's very comparable to Quincey, sans the fact that Quincey(for the most part) stays healthy. Edited June 12, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I'd give Franson upwards of around $4.5-5M on a 3 year contract. I think that is the ballpark for salary, I just think he will likely be looking for more term... Franson would be an immediate upgrade to our top 4. I'd consider going $4.5 x 5 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I'd give Franson upwards of around $4.5-5M on a 3 year contract. I think that is the ballpark for salary, I just think he will likely be looking for more term... Franson would be an immediate upgrade to our top 4. I'd consider going $4.5 x 5 years...I really dont like his footspeed, and he looked so out of place on Nashville.5Years is a long time to carry a player if we find out he was just a product of the terrible system and big minutes in Toronto. 2 nyqvististhefuture and Rivalred reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I love Franson's game and I think he is far and away our best option, whether that be free agency or trade target. No one else really interests me at all to be honest. Unfortunately, I don't see us landing him, so I won't ever get the opportunity to say "told ya so..." Haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I love Franson's game and I think he is far and away our best option, whether that be free agency or trade target. No one else really interests me at all to be honest. Unfortunately, I don't see us landing him, so I won't ever get the opportunity to say "told ya so..." Haha.Ha.Fair enough. He could be good for us, and I would welcome him if we got him, and be happy if you got to say that... But you're right, chances are we won't get him. Someone is going to offer him too much, and price us out. Or maybe he really is set on going back to Toronto, or going to Vancouver. But what about green, or oduya? Then only reason I could see us not trying for one of them is if the bidding gets too high(which I can definitely see happening) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,962 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 When it comes to dmen only available through UFA, I feel Green is the best fit for this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 When it comes to dmen only available through UFA, I feel Green is the best fit for this team. All depends on the price ... I was gonna say Edmonton would probably throw a ridiculous contract but then I remembered chirelli is the gm now lol And Edmonton needs money to resign some kids a few yrs from now so who knows Not willing to give longterm deal to green but maybe he'd consider a 2 yr x5 per deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 All depends on the price ... I was gonna say Edmonton would probably throw a ridiculous contract but then I remembered chirelli is the gm now lol And Edmonton needs money to resign some kids a few yrs from now so who knows Not willing to give longterm deal to green but maybe he'd consider a 2 yr x5 per deal? Drafts Seguin, trades him, goes to work with Hall. Classic. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I wonder if Anaheim would be willing to trade one of their defensemen Tatar has to be a very attractive peice to other teams. A guy that hovers around 30 goals that's very cheap on a short deal and a RFA at the end of his deal. I think Nyquist gets a long term deal when he signs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,962 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I wonder if Anaheim would be willing to trade one of their defensemen Tatar has to be a very attractive peice to other teams. A guy that hovers around 30 goals that's very cheap on a short deal and a RFA at the end of his deal. I think Nyquist gets a long term deal when he signs Tatar is going nowhere. 1 martinezsvsu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Pens aren't bringing back ehroff , if he's willing to except a one or 2 year deal that's the type of deal I could see holland doing and wouldn't cost us big assets Kronwall ehroff Dekeyser Ericsson Quincey ouellet/marchenko/smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,962 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Pens aren't bringing back ehroff , if he's willing to except a one or 2 year deal that's the type of deal I could see holland doing and wouldn't cost us big assets Kronwall ehroff Dekeyser Ericsson Quincey ouellet/marchenko/smith He took a one year deal with the Pens, to try and pad his stats playing with Crosby and Malkin to get another big payday. He underwhelmed. Big time. I'd rather see the team go with what we have than to bring Ehrhoff in at this point. Green has rebounded nicely since his injury issues. Sure he isn't scoring a point per game like he has in the past, but the Caps also don't play the same way they used to either. green is a righty who can likely put up 50 points. Would fill a great need on this roster. Sure it would be nice to have someone who could play well defensively as well. But those types of players just aren't available. Green would do amazing things to the powerplay. I by no means think it will happen, as no doubt someone will pay wayy too much. Edited June 13, 2015 by marcaractac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 He took a one year deal with the Pens, to try and pad his stats playing with Crosby and Malkin to get another big payday. He underwhelmed. Big time. I'd rather see the team go with what we have than to bring Ehrhoff in at this point. Green has rebounded nicely since his injury issues. Sure he isn't scoring a point per game like he has in the past, but the Caps also don't play the same way they used to either. green is a righty who can likely put up 50 points. Would fill a great need on this roster. Sure it would be nice to have someone who could play well defensively as well. But those types of players just aren't available. Green would do amazing things to the powerplay. I by no means think it will happen, as no doubt someone will pay wayy too much. Ya green would be nice at say 2 yrs x5 maybe even a third year if it was the deal breaker but I got a feeling someone will give him a 5x5 type offer Mentioned ehroff cause it's the type of deal holland would make , your right he didn't play that great with the pens but he did deal with injury issues and I don't think he's as bad and he was , I could see him getting 30-40 pts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,962 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 Ya green would be nice at say 2 yrs x5 maybe even a third year if it was the deal breaker but I got a feeling someone will give him a 5x5 type offer I mean, he is only 29. A 5 year deal for a guy like Green would absolutely not be the end of the world. Especially if a longer deal were to lower the cap hit a little. 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 I wonder if Anaheim would be willing to trade one of their defensemen Tatar has to be a very attractive peice to other teams. A guy that hovers around 30 goals that's very cheap on a short deal and a RFA at the end of his deal. I think Nyquist gets a long term deal when he signs Wisniewski could be available, though I wouldn't give up Tatar to get him. For that matter I wouldn't give up Tatar for any of their defensemen. At least not right now. No sense in fixing a hole by creating another one, and none of their guys are so good that it would make up for the loss. 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 I don't want to give up nyquist, but on HF boards there was a proposal of Nyquist for vatanen straight up. Which isn't bad. I wish vatanen were bigger, but I'd still want him on the wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 I mean, he is only 29. A 5 year deal for a guy like Green would absolutely not be the end of the world. Especially if a longer deal were to lower the cap hit a little. He's been relatively healthy last few seasons but he's had some injury concerns in the past which are a concern , and he's not the best defensively ... I mean I wouldn't be pissed off since he's not costing us any assets but I'd be more comfortable with a 3 year term max I don't want to give up nyquist, but on HF boards there was a proposal of Nyquist for vatanen straight up. Which isn't bad. I wish vatanen were bigger, but I'd still want him on the wings. Ya he's not the biggest guy and he's been playing with a good offensive team in Anaheim and still new to the league , wouldn't be against landing him But nyquist has the potential to get 25-40 goals so I'm probably biased but I'd think we could land someone better especially if we added another piece I wouldn't do it since there in the east but I'm sure Pittsburgh would want nyquist to play with Crosby in a heartbeat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 Tatar is going nowhere. I love both Tatar and Nyquist but I still would trade one for a guy like Vatanen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 Would anyone be stunned to see Holland offer Barret Jackman a contract? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 Would anyone be stunned to see Holland offer Barret Jackman a contract? Yeah, kinda. He's not at all what we're looking for. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Holland will end up signing Zidlicky for cheap. RH offensive dman with zero risk Edited June 13, 2015 by joesuffP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 He's been relatively healthy last few seasons but he's had some injury concerns in the past which are a concern , and he's not the best defensively ... I mean I wouldn't be pissed off since he's not costing us any assets but I'd be more comfortable with a 3 year term max Ya he's not the biggest guy and he's been playing with a good offensive team in Anaheim and still new to the league , wouldn't be against landing him But nyquist has the potential to get 25-40 goals so I'm probably biased but I'd think we could land someone better especially if we added another piece I wouldn't do it since there in the east but I'm sure Pittsburgh would want nyquist to play with Crosby in a heartbeat 20 to 40 is a huge range. I'm not sold on either Tatar or Nyquist being more than 60 point guys. Sure, they're valuable, but not guys you can't part with. 2 Internet.Unknown and MasterPavel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinezsvsu 240 Report post Posted June 13, 2015 Blashill probably wants to use marchenko or O. Plus we still have smith and kindl. If we aquire a d man it will be a higher level guy, no need for zids or jackman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites