Players who might be available due to teams cap issues

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Luckily Tampa will have a little bit of time before having to make that decision... also, we'll see if Stamkos is willing to take a discount to stay.

Yeah, they do have a little time.

Which is pretty damn impressive, honestly.

but I highly doubt stamkos is going to get less than toews or Kane, especially since the cap is going to rise, since the Canadian dollar is going get stronger now that Babcock signed in Toronto. (joking)

[FlashyG 1,799]

I don't really see the Blues as being in cap trouble, unless they have an internal cap that prevents them from going to the actual cap.

They have over 12 million in cap space left to retain Tarasenko, Allen and for room to call up a few entry level contracts.

It doesn't look like they'll be buyers in Free Agency this off-season, but I don't seem them being at risk of having to cut players unless ownership wants them to get costs down.

[Richdg 267]

I don't really see the Blues as being in cap trouble, unless they have an internal cap that prevents them from going to the actual cap.

They have over 12 million in cap space left to retain Tarasenko, Allen and for room to call up a few entry level contracts.

It doesn't look like they'll be buyers in Free Agency this off-season, but I don't seem them being at risk of having to cut players unless ownership wants them to get costs down.

Depends how much Tarasenko makes. There is beleif by the hockey writers in STL that he will be a 8+ million cap hit starting next year. Add in their other RFA's and they are out of cash with less than a 23 man roster. But this all has to pay out and will.

[Dabura 12,207]

Brent Seabrook is the one who comes straight to mind. Though, my gut says the Oilers are going to do pretty much anything it takes to get him - and lord knows they have some attractive pieces they can offer.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Brent Seabrook is the one who comes straight to mind. Though, my gut says the Oilers are going to do pretty much anything it takes to get him - and lord knows they have some attractive pieces they can offer.

I think Chicago will do whatever it takes to keep him. Edited May 22, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter

[Dabura 12,207]

I think Chicago will do whatever it takes to keep him.

You may be right. The thing is the potential return. It's entirely possible the Blackhawks could win a Brent Seabrook trade, as pretty much every team wants to add a right-shooting top-pairing defenseman.They might be able to land a couple really, really good young cost-controlled players.

[number9 3,297]

I see the Hawks letting Sharp walk and/or trading Hossa before anything happening with Seabrook. They have young players who can fill wing rolls. Not so much at D.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

The Seabrook dream will be over before it even started. Hossa, Sharp and Hjalmarson will be traded before the hawks even consider moving Seabrook. Even if he would be available the Wings don't have the assets to get it done.

Also I really don't believe Kenny has the guts to pull of something of that magnitude

Phaneuf will be a more realistic option in my mind.

[Jericho613 74]

Lucic is a piece of s***. An absolute scumbag. I don't give a damn how good of a player he is, it would be an embarrassment to have him in a Wings jersey. There's a lot of players I hate that would be great on the Wings and I would be more than happy to suck it up and bring them in (Weber, et al) but Milan "Human Garbage Can" Lucic is not one of them. f*** that guy.

Amen to that.

[LeftWinger 4,953]

Speaking of the Lightning and their measly $1.4M available cap, their D has 6 players signed, now unless Ohlund is going to be on LTIR, they need to find a way to re-sign RFA Andrej Sustr. He will probably want more than $1.4M and if he goes to arbitration, he will probably be awarded more than that as well. Detroit wanted him pretty bad when he was unsigned before, could that be someone Holland goes after again? Even though signing him means losing a draft pick. Maybe in a business deal, Yzerman would take Smith in exchange for Sustr. It would cost Yzerman much less to re-sign Smith than Sustr...besides, he owes us from the KFQ for a 1st deal...

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

I see the Hawks letting Sharp walk and/or trading Hossa before anything happening with Seabrook. They have young players who can fill wing rolls. Not so much at D.

Sharp is the odd man out ... Blackhawks won't make the same mistake we made

[kipwinger 8,522]

Speaking of the Lightning and their measly $1.4M available cap, their D has 6 players signed, now unless Ohlund is going to be on LTIR, they need to find a way to re-sign RFA Andrej Sustr. He will probably want more than $1.4M and if he goes to arbitration, he will probably be awarded more than that as well. Detroit wanted him pretty bad when he was unsigned before, could that be someone Holland goes after again? Even though signing him means losing a draft pick. Maybe in a business deal, Yzerman would take Smith in exchange for Sustr. It would cost Yzerman much less to re-sign Smith than Sustr...besides, he owes us from the KFQ for a 1st deal...

They'll just move one of Carle or Coburn. Maybe Garrison. Besides Sustr isn't that good anyway.

[marcaractac 3,963]

If we have kids who break out and all score around 70 points, more than just you are going to be happy.

Ha.

I'd be so happy i'd pee

Speaking of the Lightning and their measly $1.4M available cap, their D has 6 players signed, now unless Ohlund is going to be on LTIR, they need to find a way to re-sign RFA Andrej Sustr. He will probably want more than $1.4M and if he goes to arbitration, he will probably be awarded more than that as well. Detroit wanted him pretty bad when he was unsigned before, could that be someone Holland goes after again? Even though signing him means losing a draft pick. Maybe in a business deal, Yzerman would take Smith in exchange for Sustr. It would cost Yzerman much less to re-sign Smith than Sustr...besides, he owes us from the KFQ for a 1st deal...

NOPE

The Seabrook dream will be over before it even started. Hossa, Sharp and Hjalmarson will be traded before the hawks even consider moving Seabrook. Even if he would be available the Wings don't have the assets to get it done. Also I really don't believe Kenny has the guts to pull of something of that magnitude Phaneuf will be a more realistic option in my mind.

lol

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

Sharp is the odd man out ... Blackhawks won't make the same mistake we made

Bickell is also a UFA at the same time as Sharp. I wonder if shedding his 4 mill would be enough to keep Sharp around as well. Anyway, the sacrifice will be upfront instead of Seabrook.

[Richdg 267]

We don't know who is going to get moved, that is the point. There are several teams with major cap issues. There are several teams that have the cap room and cheap young prospects to trade. But all 30 teams are not going to be involved. The number of "sellers" is going to be fairly close to the number of "buyers". That COULD create a buyers market as we get closer to the date of cap compliance. This is what could make this off season very interesting. The UFA market sucks big time, so trades are the way to go this year.

[krsmith17 7,191]

No, you're absolutely right to say "we don't know who is going to get moved", but where you're wrong is suggesting that there is even a remote possibility that any of Stamkos, Kopitar, Seabrook or several others will not get re-signed. There is absolutely no chance. These teams would trade away half of their team before they let any of these guys walk. And if you're suggesting trading for any of them, A. what exactly do you think it would cost? B. do you honestly think Holland would make the trade? and C. would it be beneficial for us to trade away a couple roster players, a couple top end prospects (Larkin / Mantha) / draft picks for one player? I don't think so...

Like I said before, Brent Seabrook, never going to happen. Erik Johnson, hell yeah, I'd make a phone call...

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

No, you're absolutely right to say "we don't know who is going to get moved", but where you're wrong is suggesting that there is even a remote possibility that any of Stamkos, Kopitar, Seabrook or several others will not get re-signed. There is absolutely no chance. These teams would trade away half of their team before they let any of these guys walk. And if you're suggesting trading for any of them, A. what exactly do you think it would cost? B. do you honestly think Holland would make the trade? and C. would it be beneficial for us to trade away a couple roster players, a couple top end prospects (Larkin / Mantha) / draft picks for one player? I don't think so...

Like I said before, Brent Seabrook, never going to happen. Erik Johnson, hell yeah, I'd make a phone call...

No way those teams are trading the stars like you said ... Doubt very much erik johnson would get dealt as avs don't have even enough d depth

Someone above mentioned bickell I think they'd rather keep bickell as he's a playoff guy and sharp is getting older and on the decline

[Richdg 267]

No, you're absolutely right to say "we don't know who is going to get moved", but where you're wrong is suggesting that there is even a remote possibility that any of Stamkos, Kopitar, Seabrook or several others will not get re-signed. There is absolutely no chance. These teams would trade away half of their team before they let any of these guys walk. And if you're suggesting trading for any of them, A. what exactly do you think it would cost? B. do you honestly think Holland would make the trade? and C. would it be beneficial for us to trade away a couple roster players, a couple top end prospects (Larkin / Mantha) / draft picks for one player? I don't think so...

Like I said before, Brent Seabrook, never going to happen. Erik Johnson, hell yeah, I'd make a phone call...

I guarantee some of the big names get moved. Some could be 1 or 2 or 3, but some will be moved. Once they do the chances are we all be be surprised at how little it costs, just like the Nash trade from a couple of years ago. Ryan trade same thing, kesler and so on...

Now your point about Holland is valid. He has lost his guts-if he ever had any.

[krsmith17 7,191]

The argument isn't "big name players", my argument is "all-star, franchise type player"... They will NOT be moved... No way Yzerman lets Stamkos leave, be it waivers or trade...

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Stamkos will be re-signed so will Kopitar and Seabrook he is part of Chicago's core. They'll move heaven and earth before him

[Richdg 267]

Stamkos will be re-signed so will Kopitar and Seabrook he is part of Chicago's core. They'll move heaven and earth before him

Maybe. If Stamkos doesn't want to resign, he will not. Ditto for everyone else.

The argument isn't "big name players", my argument is "all-star, franchise type player"... They will NOT be moved... No way Yzerman lets Stamkos leave, be it waivers or trade...

Don't be surprised if Malkin is moved this summer.

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

Maybe. If Stamkos doesn't want to resign, he will not. Ditto for everyone else.

Don't be surprised if Malkin is moved this summer.

Why would stamkos want to resign? He's just hitting his prime

[Richdg 267]

Today on Spector is a post about Stamkos wanting 10.5 million per year and that rumors are he might get moved.......

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

Today on Spector is a post about Stamkos wanting 10.5 million per year and that rumors are he might get moved.......

He's not going anywhere

[Richdg 267]

He's not going anywhere

None of us know what is going to happen. But what would you do if he doesn't want to resign? keep him 1 more year and have him walk for nothing, or move him for more assets? never an easy choice. Then there is the cap side. Yes he is great, but what does 10+ million do to your roster?