Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

[wings87 1,290]

Money and a bad 4-5 years? Toronto isn't going anywhere anytime soon, they are in worse shape then Buffalo.

If he wins in Toronto he'll be a god, if not he'll at least be paid like one. Plus I'm sure he'll have more power in the organization, then he's got in Detroit.

[gcom007 1,465]

LeBrun saying SJ is out. It's said the Wings and Sabres are out, and it's said the Blues are working things out with Hitch. If the Leafs are the only team left, what's the hold up? Obviously someone is wrong here.

I don't think the Wings are out until it's official that he signed with another team. One thing I keep coming back to is Holland himself saying that money won't be an issue. He may be playing hardball, but I wouldn't be shocked if he matched. Others have said that they didn't want to play ball in the field and that they were pissed, but Holland has only been quoted directly as saying money won't be a factor.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

If he wins in Toronto he'll be a god, if not he'll at least be paid like one. Plus I'm sure he'll have more power in the organization, then he's got in Detroit.

I get that, however they couldn't win spending like Detroit why will things change now? Players already don't want to go to Toronto, and they weren't lining up to play in Detroit because Babcock was here either.

[marcaractac 3,962]

Yesterday Bob McKenzie said Toronto is out for sure. There was articles in the paper today about Toronto losing out on Babs.

Just goes to show everyone is just grasping at straws for that media attention.

[GoalieManPat 1,007]

Get tons of money and you get to take every Spring off. Who can blame him.

[Jersey Wing 1,521]

If it's Toronto, Babcock won't win there, ie second round of the playoffs for three years at least. If they sign him it's to get a big gate boost and a big name coach in hopes of signing big name free agents.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

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how is it "official"? Yesterday he for sure wasn't going to the leafs, today he for sure is going to Toronto?

Wings out ..... Sabres blues sharks

Who's left ? ... There waiting to announce it but I think it's quite obvious he's going there for a ton of money

[marcaractac 3,962]

If it's Toronto, Babcock won't win there, ie second round of the playoffs for three years at least. If they sign him it's to get a big gate boost and a big name coach in hopes of signing big name free agents.

Blowing money in free agency is a part of what put that franchise in the current mess its in.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

Leafs Plane

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CFdx4mwWEAAwcua.mp4

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

Blowing money in free agency is a part of what put that franchise in the current mess its in.

Guess we can forget phaneuf

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

That's assuming Shanny is good at his job. He may not be. Nobody knows.

Definitely. I'm setting an extremely low bar here. Shanny has shown himself to be not insane and is at least saying the right things, though he has no track record as team president.

The GM is the key. Going to Toronto without that in place is putting a ton of faith in Shanahan hiring the right guy for that job.

[wings87 1,290]

I get that, however they couldn't win spending like Detroit why will things change now? Players already don't want to go to Toronto, and they weren't lining up to play in Detroit because Babcock was here either.

Yeah, but if your Toronto you gotta start somewhere. So you start with a coach, and if they are smart(big if) the next step would be to clean house and start over.

[kipwinger 8,521]

Howard Berger ‏@Berger_BYTES 11m11 minutes ago

Can't confirm, but told in email from source #Leafs offered Babcock dual role of GM and coach. Why not, huh?

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

Howard Berger ‏@Berger_BYTES 11m11 minutes ago

Can't confirm, but told in email from source #Leafs offered Babcock dual role of GM and coach. Why not, huh?

Haaaa called it ... Said he'd get to be involved in hiring the new gm and get involved in trades ... Close enough?

Oh mike ... At least he's gonna enjoy all that money

Looks like well have to buy out weiss lol

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Ericsson for Phaneuf straight up? Maybe toss in Andersson? If Mike has a say in personnel....

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

So if Babs goes to Toronto, does Cleary sign another 1 year deal with them? Maybe that's why he's leaving, Holland doesn't want another year of Cleary and Babs refuses to accept that.

Edited May 20, 2015 by darkmanx

[amato 3,210]

"@Proteautype: The Mike Babcock Only Lane on the Gardiner Expressway will take some adjusting, but I think Toronto can deal with it."

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

Are the Calgary Hitmen out of the sweepstakes?

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

Haaaa called it ... Said he'd get to be involved in hiring the new gm and get involved in trades ... Close enough?

Oh mike ... At least he's gonna enjoy all that money

Looks like well have to buy out weiss lol

Ya. I'll take what "Berger bytes" says with a large tablespoon of salt

[Mckinley25 677]

Howard Berger ‏@Berger_BYTES 11m11 minutes ago

Can't confirm, but told in email from source #Leafs offered Babcock dual role of GM and coach. Why not, huh?

I've never done either job, so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like they'd both be too involved for one person to do both. I mean maybe I'm underestimating the work load, but it doesn't feel like a formula for success.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

Is Phil Kessel a Babcock guy?

He wouldn't backcheck if his mother was in his team's goal.

Edited May 20, 2015 by GMRwings1983

[hillbillywingsfan 792]

GM and coach almost never works in sports, but coaches have big enough egos where they wouldn't pass it up.

Is Phil Kessel a Babcock guy?

He wouldn't backcheck if his mother was in his team's goal.

And Babs has that per reports.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

I've never done either job, so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like they'd both be too involved for one person to do both. I mean maybe I'm underestimating the work load, but it doesn't feel like a formula for success.

GM and coach almost never works in sports, but coaches have big enough egos where they wouldn't pass it up.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

oward Berger @Berger_BYTES
Detroit radio station is reporting #Leafs have offered Babcock $8 million a year! MLSE can afford it. But, wowser.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

He might not be the gm but he's gonna be involved in trades going on