LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Chelly coached and lead while playing on the ice and in the locker room. There is no reason to believe that he cannot have the same effect coaching from behind the bench. There is a risk, sure, but in terms of leadership, I think that Chelios has Gretzky beat. On the Oiler teams, Messier was more of a leader, Gretzky was just pure offense. Same way I believe Malkin is a better leader than he who shall not be named. If Granato re-signs, this coaching staff will be one to reckon with. Hey now, everyone here knows that I am the Psychic One! With all my predictions coming true! (Yes, I can make fun of myself!) But once again, look a few posts up above the first Chelios to be Asst. post and you will see me saying make him an asst. What can I say, this stuff just happens! What can I say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings! 179 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Welcome Coach! Good luck and take good care of our boys! Hopefully get a Cup soon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Reading a book on sporting "Gold Mines" and reached a really good part where the Kenyan long-distance running school is discussed in detail. Now most of the people that are in the school, and indeed came out of it, aren't genetically any superior to non-Kenyans, they don't have the world's top training facilities or resources, yet when Moses Kiptanui crossed the line first as an unknown (not even a 'relatively' unknown - seriously people didn't even know he was in the race) in his first 3000m steeplechase he told people afterwards "I knew I would win". There is an incredible power behind the belief that you can achieve, and as has been mentioned, Chelios has that. I know he doesn't have any real experience (although it sounds like he's been working with the coaching crew a fair bit) but he sure as hell won't go out there, give it a shot and say "meh it's not going all that well..." he'll work his ass off and make sure everyone else is as well. I'd give him a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Drew Sharp is calling hiring Blash "a huge gamble" on the Freep's front page article. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Drew Sharp is calling hiring Blash "a huge gamble" on the Freep's front page article. LOL How is it not? He has zero prior NHL head coaching experience Edited June 9, 2015 by number9 1 MidMichSteve reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 How is it not? He's The suspense is killing me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 The suspense is killing me Ur faster than cool hand luke 1 BottleOfSmoke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Good luck Jeff will be a tough first - learning experience - year but hopefully Holland can provide him with a better team. I thought the freep analysis was spot on: hiring a young AHL coach is always a huge gamble, it can pay of temendously i.e Cooper or backfire i.e. Eakins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Good luck Jeff will be a tough first - learning experience - year but hopefully Holland can provide him with a better team. I thought the freep analysis was spot on: hiring a young AHL coach is always a huge gamble, it can pay of temendously i.e Cooper or backfire i.e. Eakins. And how's been the success of other coaches we hired without head experience? You basically have Lewis and a mix of short stint guys from the dead wings era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) How is it not? He has zero prior NHL head coaching experience So did Mike Babcock at one time. Every coaching hire is a gamble really. What veteran coach available would have been a sure thing and made more sense than Blashill? Edited June 9, 2015 by GoWings1905 2 krsmith17 and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 And how's been the success of other coaches we hired without head experience? You basically have Lewis and a mix of short stint guys from the dead wings era. Babcock made the jump from after only 2 years of minor league coaching experience and only mediocre performance there. And no NHL assistant coaching experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 So did Mike Babcock at one time. Every coaching hire is a gamble really. What veteran coach available would have been a sure thing and made more sense than Blashill? I'm not saying there is a vet available that's a better choice. I said it's a gamble hiring him, as u just confirmed. To say it's not a gamble is being way over zealous of his ability The only non-gamble was retaining Babs. We lost that option. Babcock made the jump from after only 2 years of minor league coaching experience and only mediocre performance there. And no NHL assistant coaching experience. And Babs essentially is the Scotty Bowman of his era. An outlier in a huge pool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2015/06/09/detroit-red-wings-chris-chelios/28760323/ "The Free Press has learned Chelios is meeting with general manager Ken Holland and Blashill this week." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Babcock's hiring isn't the same thing as Blashill's. Using the "well Babcock was only in the minors for two years and ended up being successful" argument doesn't work for our situation. The Red Wings hired him AFTER he proved himself at the NHL level with Anaheim. He wasn't a gamble for us when we brought him in, he was an upgrade from Lewis. Ah, yes Dave Lewis, former assistant and a head coaching failure. Before that it was Bownman. A proven head coach. That's nearly 25 years of Red Wings history for you. In short; in about 25 years the Red Wings have hired 4 coaches. Scotty Bowman who was a proven coach and led us to success. Mike Babcock who took his Anaheim Mighty Ducks to the Stanley cup finals shortly before coming here. And then two other coaches. Dave Lewis who was pretty bad in the playoffs and now Jeff Blashill a man with zero NHL coaching experience. Blashill is the biggest gamble we have seen in 25 years. Lewis, Babcock, and Bowman were not. These are facts. Do I hope the gamble works out for us? Yeah. Still a gamble though. Something we haven't seen in 25 years in this organization. Edited June 9, 2015 by kickazz 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FifeHockeyNut 57 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 When GR needed a new assistant coach last off-season, I understand that Cheli was approached and said he couldn't commit to the rigours of coaching full-time not sure if anything has changed for him this coming year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Kinda weird going from a coach with a full head of hair to a bald one. Trying to get used to this will be a bigger challenge for me than anything else next season. 1 FireCaptain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Babcock's hiring isn't the same thing as Blashill's. Using the "well Babcock was only in the minors for two years and ended up being successful" argument doesn't work for our situation. The Red Wings hired him AFTER he proved himself at the NHL level with Anaheim. He wasn't a gamble for us when we brought him in, he was an upgrade from Lewis. Ah, yes Dave Lewis, former assistant and a head coaching failure. Before that it was Bownman. A proven head coach. That's nearly 25 years of Red Wings history for you. In short; in about 25 years the Red Wings have hired 4 coaches. Scotty Bowman who was a proven coach and led us to success. Mike Babcock who took his Anaheim Mighty Ducks to the Stanley cup finals shortly before coming here. And then two other coaches. Dave Lewis who was pretty bad in the playoffs and now Jeff Blashill a man with zero NHL coaching experience. Blashill is the biggest gamble we have seen in 25 years. Lewis, Babcock, and Bowman were not. These are facts. Do I hope the gamble works out for us? Yeah. Still a gamble though. Something we haven't seen in 25 years in this organization. The only reason why hiring Blash is a gamble compared to hiring Bowman and Babcock is because hiring Bowman and Babcock were 100% not gambles. Hiring anybody not Mike Babcock going into next season would have been some sort of a gamble. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 The only reason why hiring Blash is a gamble compared to hiring Bowman and Babcock is because hiring Bowman and Babcock were 100% not gambles. Hiring anybody not Mike Babcock going into next season would have been some sort of a gamble. Aye I agree. Just addressing anyone who is blindly thinking that we will be better somehow next year by hiring Chelios or having Blash instead of Babs. All we do know is that we don't really know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 Aye I agree. Just addressing anyone who is blindly thinking that we will be better somehow next year by hiring Chelios or having Blash instead of Babs. All we do know is that we don't really know. For sure. The team is definitely on the right path though. I think the chances of the team doing at least as well are high. The leadership is too good and too proud to accept anything less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted June 9, 2015 I have a very exciting update on the new coach. He's sitting in front of my friend at the Tiger's game tonight... 2 Hockeymom1960 and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted June 10, 2015 Ur faster than cool hand luke Cool hand Luke was famous for his pluck. His moxie. He wasn't notoriously fast at anything in particular. Get it together man. You're slipping. 2 BottleOfSmoke and Wing Across The Pond reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted June 10, 2015 I have a very exciting update on the new coach. He's sitting in front of my friend at the Tiger's game tonight... That Cleary with him? 2 Hockeymom1960 and kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted June 10, 2015 Interview with Blashill: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=770324&navid=nhl:topheads Also, Very interesting comments from some HOF players. Another former Red Wings defenseman, Chris Chelios, an adviser to hockey operations for Detroit, worked closely with Grand Rapids. "You talk about structure and accountability, I haven't been around too many guys who are better at it than Jeff," Chelios said. "One thing he says that hits home is, he knows what makes guys tick, he knows how to talk to guys. "The fact that he won a Calder Cup with a lot of the guys who are with the [Red] Wings is going to help a lot, I think, with his transition." Lidstrom, talking to NHL.com by phone from Sweden, said the time seems right for Blashill in Detroit. "He's been doing a tremendous job down in Grand Rapids, and I'm sure [babcock] had a lot to do with that too, learning from [babcock] when he was up and speaking to him throughout the last three years in Grand Rapids," Lidstrom said. "[babcock] having been in Detroit for a lot of years and having a lot of success, he probably feels it's the right step for him to look for another challenge, but I think it could be the same for the team too. "A younger coach coming in, a coach with hunger and drive -- not to say [babcock] didn't have that -- but a new voice in the locker room could help some of the veteran players get recharged again." That Cleary with him? Oh god... Kinda looks like Brad Richards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 10, 2015 Cool hand Luke was famous for his pluck. His moxie. He wasn't notoriously fast at anything in particular. Get it together man. You're slipping. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzcgyk62cHU What happens if Blashill misses the playoffs next year? Hypothetically? Does he get a pass his first season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted June 10, 2015 Blashill should get a pass if we miss. He's not going to be the best coach in hockey right out the gate. Babcock barely got them there with the same roster. Seems people are just trying to get their "I told you so's" ready. This team is rebuilding. I'm just hoping for the best and enjoying the ride Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
