Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

I've begun to regret they didnt give him up for tyler myers..

If for no other reason than it would've ended all this phanuef talk before it started.

Edited June 19, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter

[joesuffP 1,746]

Mantha having a bad season then getting traded to Toronto with huge expectations could shatter this kids confidence completely

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Plus, he's huge.

So he's going to be great.

Mantha having a bad season then getting traded to Toronto with huge expectations could shatter this kids confidence completely

I didn't even really think about that.

Ha.

Can you imagine all the pressure he'd be under?

He'd be 5' nothing in no time.

[joesuffP 1,746]

If we added Mantha to the Phaneuf deal it would have to be totally reworked... Something like Quincey+Mantha and Toronto retaining 1-1.5M is something I would be okay with

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

The only way I'd be okay with giving up mantha for phaneuf is if we made other moves, just bringing him in isnt worth the trouble.

Yes, he'd make us better for a few years, and take some of the physical strain away from Kronwall, but why would we want them declining together....

It seems counterproductive.

If they retain 2mil, I'd be more accepting of it.

[Helmethead 235]

Shattered Dreams Productions Presents...Goaldust. Mantha skates out on the ice in all gold wearing a mask scoring goals at will yelling "you remember the name...Goaldust!

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Shattered Dreams Productions Presents...Goaldust. Mantha skates out on the ice in all gold wearing a mask scoring goals at will yelling "you remember the name...Goaldust!

Thatd be a kick in the balls if we send him to Toronto.

[Helmethead 235]

I'd have tourettes.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 35s35 seconds ago

@DetroitRedWings no longer interested in pursuing a trade for @MapleLeafs defenseman Dion Phaneuf, I was told.

Just wanted to put this here, since cox was talking about the whole mantha phaneuf stuff.

[Helmethead 235]

Damien will be so devastated. He may be replaced as Red Wings GM.

[sjr2012 439]

I think it means that maybe Holland would rather snag green or franson

[Helmethead 235]

Or both? Two right hand shots.

[e_prime 1,936]

I think he should aggressively go after both Green and Franson in hopes of landing one or the other.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

I think he should aggressively go after both Green and Franson in hopes of landing one or the other.

if we land one, what do we do with marchenko/oulette? Edited June 20, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter

[e_prime 1,936]

if we land one, what do we do with marchenko/oulette?

One of them will probably be the seventh defenseman or they both can start in GR if necessary. As they do not have to pass through waivers.

Kindl should be traded or waived. There's the seventh spot open.

I'm not against trading Smith away as well. There's another.

Kronner

Green/Franson

Dekeyser

Quincey

Ericsson

(Smith)

Marchenko

XO

[sjr2012 439]

if we land one, what do we do with marchenko/oulette?

trade bait for a proven second center?

[Helmethead 235]

I was thinking more like signing both Green and Franson. Buyout Weiss if he can't be traded. Trade one of Ouelette or Marchenko plus Smith plus Jurco to get a decent scoring winger in a trade. But that's likely not realistic. Lol

[krsmith17 7,191]

We don't have room for both Franson and Green, neither roster spots nor cap space. And there's also no way both would sign here anyway. There will be a dozen other teams going hard for both of these guys as well. I'm okay with going after both in hopes of landing one of them, but it would be foolish to think we have any chance of getting both. I'm not worried about making space for Ouellet and Marchenko but there is no way either sit as the number 7 defenseman when both can be sent down to Grand Rapids...

[Rivalred 630]

What is the list of our active defense under contract?

Edited June 20, 2015 by Rivalred

[Helmethead 235]

Realistically Kenny signs or trades for a top 4 dman. Marchenko plays with Quincey on the 3rd pair. I just don't see the Wings as legit contenders with Ericsson on the 1st pair.

[e_prime 1,936]

Rivalred: generalfanager.com or nhlnumbers.com is your friend

Signed:

Kronwall - thru 18/19

Ericsson - thru 19/20

Dekeyser - thru 15/16 then RFA

Quincey - thru 15/16

Kindl - thru 16/17

Lashoff - thru 15/16 then RFA

Marchenko - thru 15/16 then RFA

Oullete - thru 15/16 then RFA

RFA:

Smith

UFA:

Zidlicky

[Rivalred 630]

Rivalred: generalfanager.com or nhlnumbers.com is your friend

Signed:

Kronwall - thru 18/19

Ericsson - thru 19/20

Dekeyser - thru 15/16 then RFA

Quincey - thru 15/16

Kindl - thru 16/17

Lashoff - thru 15/16 then RFA

Marchenko - thru 15/16 then RFA

Oullete - thru 15/16 then RFA

RFA:

Smith

UFA:

Zidlicky

Thank you for the links and info, Lashoff/Kindl/Smith are all expendable and we could bring in 2 upgrades looks like with exception of cap issues

[e_prime 1,936]

Thank you for the links and info, Lashoff/Kindl/Smith are all expendable and we could bring in 2 upgrades looks like with exception of cap issues

Cap issues could be worked around if you're able to move Weiss... and while I don't totally disagree with the idea of getting two D upgrades, I think it's more likely that we'll see one or both of Marchenko and XO up on the main roster.

I think it's crucial to see them both up for some extended time to really figure out what we've got because we're going to lose waiver eligibility for both at the end of the season. Either they'll be up next year or they'll be traded.

I'm also not opposed to giving Smith another year to stick (who knows how he'll perform under Blash) or to showcase him for a deadline trade.

Kindl can, and should go.

Lash can be signed, and waived.

If he gets claimed, oh well.

[KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426]

TANK IT2.0

jk

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

TANK IT2.0

jk

#tank.2