Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

[number9 3,297]

So in the next 2-3 years you don't believe there will be a trade to cut any of the forwards?... You think there's room for Helm, Abdelkader, Sheahan, Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, Bertuzzi, Larkin, Svechnikov? Or do you not think they will all make it?...

Not all will make it. They'll peace out Filppula/Hudler style or Emmerton/Mursak style. One or the other.

[krsmith17 7,191]

It sure is...

[krsmith17 7,191]

I think there will eventually be a trade. May not be this season or the next, but the amount of talent we have coming, you would think something has to give...

[number9 3,297]

I think there will eventually be a trade. May not be this season or the next, but the amount of talent we have coming, you would think something has to give...

I've been saying that about our "logjam" at forward for about 5 years now. At this point I don't expect it to happen.

[krsmith17 7,191]

I think the depth we have at forward now is miles better than anything we've ever had in Detroit. Larkin, Svechnikov, Mantha, Athanasiou, Bertuzzi, etc > > > Sheahan, Jarnkrok, Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco in my opinion... Not to mention, when the latter ground were prospects, we were lacking depth, with this current crop, we're already loaded on the big club with young talent... I don't see how we can get through a couple more years without making a trade involving a couple of these guys...

[Buppy 1,720]

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I'm not sure which top line I love more...

Holmstrom - Larkin - Svechnikov

v.s.

Bertuzzi - Athanasiou - Mantha

That is a TON of talent up front, but unfortunately very little on the back end...

Holmstrom taking #96. Seems unlikely to be a coincidence.

[Bannedforlife 403]

I notice that a lot of people are high on Bertuzzi and Holmstrom. Is it justified? I dont know much about either of them other than their familiar names.

[Dominator2005 558]

McKee for the president!

[krsmith17 7,191]

I am very high on Bertuzzi and have watched him a ton over the past year, from his time with Guelph (Memorial Cup) and his short time so far with the Griffins. I see him as an Abdelkader type of player, that can slot in anywhere up and down the lineup. He plays a very gritty game, hits everything, goes to the hard areas of the ice, and can chip in on the offense. Simply put, he's exactly the type of player that you win with...

I'm also fairly high on Holmstrom, but unfortunately I haven't seen much of him, other than the World Junior's and a few clips of him playing for A.I.K. in the SEL. I do know that he is developing quite nicely over in Sweden though and has put up some incredible numbers. He broke SEL playoff point records held by the Sedins and Kopitars with 18 points in 15 games. I think Henrik Sedin had something like 12 points in 13 games or 13 in 14... Not bad for an 18 year old playing against men...

In saying that, I don't see either as a lock in the top 6. They can both get there but I see both as 2nd/3rd line tweeners...

[Franzine 739]

Future Ken Daniels give-and-go call: "Ahn, Ehn, Ehn, Ahn -- IN!"

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Svechnikovs goal in the shootout after the prospects scrimmage was insane.

His hands are quick as hell and his body control is crazy.

He's 22 in white.

The third shooter in this video right after lil Bert.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=47&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CJICEIZUMC4&url=https%3A%2F%2Famp.twimg.com%2Fv%2F1847798a-a7e6-4af8-ad8d-56e3e930ceb4&ei=P3mYVZr7EsapsAXt34KgDg&usg=AFQjCNHH5DhPGqHWBoaJXlaNaGLs01xARQ

Effin beautiful.

Edited July 5, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

I kind of wish they would have invited maxim lazarev to camp.

He plays on a line with svech in cape Breton, and went undrafted last year and again this year.

[PumpkinEscobar 136]

Svechnikovs goal in the shootout after the prospects scrimmage was insane.

His hands are quick as hell and his body control is crazy.

He's 22 in white.

The third shooter in this video right after lil Bert.http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=47&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CJICEIZUMC4&url=https%3A%2F%2Famp.twimg.com%2Fv%2F1847798a-a7e6-4af8-ad8d-56e3e930ceb4&ei=P3mYVZr7EsapsAXt34KgDg&usg=AFQjCNHH5DhPGqHWBoaJXlaNaGLs01xARQ

Effin beautiful.

But but we needed a defenseman.....

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

But but we needed a defenseman.....

Yeahhh..but everyone who was saying we needed a defenseman pretty much agreed there wasn't a defenseman with high enough upside to take over svech at that point.

Damn was that beautiful though.

[Superman54 91]

I am very high on Bertuzzi and have watched him a ton over the past year, from his time with Guelph (Memorial Cup) and his short time so far with the Griffins. I see him as an Abdelkader type of player, that can slot in anywhere up and down the lineup. He plays a very gritty game, hits everything, goes to the hard areas of the ice, and can chip in on the offense. Simply put, he's exactly the type of player that you win with...

I'm also fairly high on Holmstrom, but unfortunately I haven't seen much of him, other than the World Junior's and a few clips of him playing for A.I.K. in the SEL. I do know that he is developing quite nicely over in Sweden though and has put up some incredible numbers. He broke SEL playoff point records held by the Sedins and Kopitars with 18 points in 15 games. I think Henrik Sedin had something like 12 points in 13 games or 13 in 14... Not bad for an 18 year old playing against men...

In saying that, I don't see either as a lock in the top 6. They can both get there but I see both as 2nd/3rd line tweeners...

Bertuzzi has much more offense upside then Abs ever did imo. Bertuzzi will be a beauty for the winged wheel

[krsmith17 7,191]

I was comparing their style of play more so than their production. However I do kind of disagree that Bertuzzi has a higher offensive upside. Abdelkader put up very good numbers (95 points in 124 games) over 3 seasons in the NCAA, while Bertuzzi did slightly better (172 points in 201 games) over 4 seasons in junior. Junior hockey is much easier to score than college hockey. Abdelkader also put up very solid numbers in the American League (76 points in 109 games). And although Bertuzzi has a much higher points per game pace to start his pro career, I'm sure he won't keep up that same pace. I'd be willing to bet, they end up having very similar numbers in the AHL when Bert graduates to the NHL. Either way, I love this kid, and I agree that he will be a great Red Wing very soon.

[number9 3,297]

I was comparing their style of play more so than their production. However I do kind of disagree that Bertuzzi has a higher offensive upside. Abdelkader put up very good numbers (95 points in 124 games) over 3 seasons in the NCAA, while Bertuzzi did slightly better (172 points in 201 games) over 4 seasons in junior. Junior hockey is much easier to score than college hockey. Abdelkader also put up very solid numbers in the American League (76 points in 109 games). And although Bertuzzi has a much higher points per game pace to start his pro career, I'm sure he won't keep up that same pace. I'd be willing to bet, they end up having very similar numbers in the AHL when Bert graduates to the NHL. Either way, I love this kid, and I agree that he will be a great Red Wing very soon.

Bertuzzi just seems to have the tenacity and grit to make it in the NHL no matter what, much like Abby. I think the Maltby comparisons are very accurate.

[FifeHockeyNut 57]

Bertuzzi just seems to have the tenacity and grit to make it in the NHL no matter what, much like Abby. I think the Maltby comparisons are very accurate.

Was Bert a 50 goal scorer in junior?

[Buppy 1,720]

Was Bert a 50 goal scorer in junior?

Only 43, but scoring was higher in Maltby's day. Did have 57 total OHL+AHL, regular + playoffs. Still counts I think.

[Rivalred 630]

Only 43, but scoring was higher in Maltby's day. Did have 57 total OHL+AHL, regular + playoffs. Still counts I think.

And Mantha scored like crazy

[e_prime 1,936]

For my next prediction, I predict there will be no such trade. The Red Wings will carry on as they always have.

And I'll bet 100 of Kips dollars on it.

Only if half are going to the charity of your choice...

...but really guys, thanks for keeping me somewhat clued in to the prospects. !!!

[number9 3,297]

Only if half are going to the charity of your choice...

...but really guys, thanks for keeping me somewhat clued in to the prospects. !!!

The number9 fund is always a popular one.

[amato 3,210]

Has Jarrett Meyer been talked about yet? Anyone wanting big guys, here ya go. He still got a long way to go but, a camp invite of the wings at 18, he is 6'9 & 246 lbs with plenty of time to develop. Here's to hoping the Detroit developmental system works its magic..

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2015/07/defenseman_jarett_meyer_creati.html

[BottleOfSmoke 5,965]

Has Jarrett Meyer been talked about yet? Anyone wanting big guys, here ya go. He still got a long way to go but, a camp invite of the wings at 18, he is 6'9 & 246 lbs with plenty of time to develop. Here's to hoping the Detroit developmental system works its magic..

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2015/07/defenseman_jarett_meyer_creati.html

Don't know about here, but there are multiple articles floating around social media about the kid:

@DetroitRedWings: READ: Meyer makes very big impression; At 6'9" free agent D is raw with an incredible upside - http://t.co/oV0twKuLgx http://t.co/356oCsJKsi

[amato 3,210]

Don't know about here, but there are multiple articles floating around social media about the kid:

@DetroitRedWings: READ: Meyer makes very big impression; At 6'9" free agent D is raw with an incredible upside - http://t.co/oV0twKuLgx http://t.co/356oCsJKsi

yup yup. saw all that too. hopefully he develops well.... chara size with red wings class could be a deadly combo.