frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Oh look after the ridiculous Mantha hype now it's Larkin .. This team isn't going anywhere so why not let him get used to the pro game in the ahl and call him up for a few games here and there Best of luck to Weiss 1 Jacksoni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shinzaki 72 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 Athanasiou played a fair amount of C last year too.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 30, 2015 https://shar.es/1qe0ZQ Holland talks specifically about wanting to see what Larkin can do, as well as athanasiou. Looks like they'll keep aa at center and try him and dylark both out in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Oh look after the ridiculous Mantha hype now it's Larkin .. This team isn't going anywhere so why not let him get used to the pro game in the ahl and call him up for a few games here and there Best of luck to Weiss I got high hopes for larkin but I agree , unless it's a bonfide star rookie I always prefer they start down for one year ... Let's see how larkin does there , if he dominates the game in all aspects and has like 55 pts in 50 games let's say then I'm all for giving him a call up and see what happens But I think he needs to start down and dominate with the other kids 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 I can't see why Larkin wouldn't be able to put up Numbers like Sheahan did in his first year as a 3rd line center 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I don't understand why do it this year unless you think you have a good chance at landing that RH Dman tomorrow. The buyout made way more sense next season, for reasons more than just shortening the term. Kenny said to HSJ that it's for re-signing UFA's next year, but I think that's smoke and mirrors. Quinceys 4.25+Danny's 1mil bonus+whatever the cap goes up by would be enough to re-sign Dekeyser, Abdelkader and Helm. I do love the fact there trying to give Larkin a chance to crack the roster, kid is turning heads. Edited July 1, 2015 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmethead 235 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Next summer KQ is a UFA and Howard will likely be traded. That's 10 mil right there. Dump Kindl. That's another 2.5 mil. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Next summer KQ is a UFA and Howard will likely be traded. That's 10 mil right there. Dump Kindl. That's another 2.5 mil. Exactly. It's not like we're pressed up against the cap, far from it. Should be interesting to see how tomorrow works out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvanpop 98 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 It better not be just to have an open forward spot for Cleary... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmethead 235 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Cleary is Wayne Fontes. Rasputin. They short sheeted his bed, drugged his wine but no! They couldn't get rid of Cleary! 1 The Greek reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 I'm guessing 4 or 5 years 4.25 for goose maybe 3 years He carried us into the playoffs when Z and Datsyuk were hurt last season.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,960 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Pretty sure Nyquist will get a long term deal Would be smart to lock him up imo Definitely. A bridge deal puts him into UFA age. Gotta lock him up now. If he is given a short deal, and tears it up, it will cost a hell of a lot more. Overpay him now, his contract will become a steal. Holland has literally been doing that for years. Oh look after the ridiculous Mantha hype now it's Larkin .. This team isn't going anywhere so why not let him get used to the pro game in the ahl and call him up for a few games here and there Best of luck to Weiss Because Larkin showed more in merely a month than Mantha has in almost an entire season. Not saying Mantha won't get there, but Larkin's game allows him to contribute at the pro level. He does not need the development that Mantha does. Instead of waiting until the kid is 21/22 like we always do, there is a chance we may finally have a player who will already be making a big impact on this team in a top 6 role by that age. It isn't hype. Many of us feel he is ready. Obviously Blash and Holland think he may be as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Kenny's FA actions have been BRUTAL in last couple of years... Ian White, as far as I remember was bought out Carlo, Tootoo and now Weiss... Did I forgot someone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmethead 235 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 I think Helm gets moved back to centre while Dats is out. But I could see Larkin centering a 3rd line playing with Jurco and Pulkkinen. Larkin would not be matching up with opponents top lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Jurco dylark pulks could be an awesome third line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 I like that 3rd line: Jurco-Larkin-Pulks 1 joesuffP reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 I like that 3rd line: Jurco-Larkin-Pulks You and me both brother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Kenny's FA actions have been BRUTAL in last couple of years... Ian White, as far as I remember was bought out Carlo, Tootoo and now Weiss... Did I forgot someone? Like with Samuelsson, I think it was just that White's contract expired and Kenny understandably had zero interest in re-signing. I think the buyouts were just the three you mentioned, Cola, Tootoo, now Weiss. I didn't really see enough of Weiss in Florida to know if this was doomed from the start, but Holland's track record the last few seasons have not been great. Though he did ok last season in picking up Zidlicky and Cole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmethead 235 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Weiss was a classic case of a second line player getting 1st line ice time on a bad team for years. I call it the Steve Sullivan syndrome. He played on bad Leaf teams and piled up points. On a good team in a lesser role he was useless. Weiss came here injured. He never really got it going here. Ray Whitney was signed here after Feds left . He never fit. But he went on to win a cup in Carolina. Maybe Weiss rebounds with a new team. But he can't skate like he used to which is what made him successful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Like with Samuelsson, I think it was just that White's contract expired and Kenny understandably had zero interest in re-signing. I think the buyouts were just the three you mentioned, Cola, Tootoo, now Weiss. I didn't really see enough of Weiss in Florida to know if this was doomed from the start, but Holland's track record the last few seasons have not been great. Though he did ok last season in picking up Zidlicky and Cole. Weiss was called Weisserman (their version of Stevie Y). He wasn't that bad but again he was a 3rd line center on a food team. I think that this is Scotty effect, since Scotty left, Kenny hasn't been that great. He's building Playoff contender team and not SC contenders. Weiss was a classic case of a second line player getting 1st line ice time on a bad team for years. I call it the Steve Sullivan syndrome. He played on bad Leaf teams and piled up points. On a good team in a lesser role he was useless. Weiss came here injured. He never really got it going here. Ray Whitney was signed here after Feds left . He never fit. But he went on to win a cup in Carolina. Maybe Weiss rebounds with a new team. But he can't skate like he used to which is what made him successful. Whitney was bought out after 1st lockout, McCarty and Hatcher (if my memory serves me well)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmethead 235 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Yes. The Wings paid Hatcher 10 mil to go away after he played like 4 games. Hey the Million Dollar Man! Hahahaha...Ted DiBiase. One of my favs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Yes. The Wings paid Hatcher 10 mil to go away after he played like 4 games. Hey the Million Dollar Man! Hahahaha...Ted DiBiase. One of my favs. Context was different then but again, Kenny has made some really stupid moves. We should be one of the team with most buyouts since 1st lock out... That's an issue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Seems like Kenny gets a pass around here for this Weiss contract. Terrible move. 1 evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmethead 235 Report post Posted July 1, 2015 Terrible signing in the first place. Kenny just admitted the blunder and is moving on so to speak. I just hope he doesn't hand out another stupid UFA deal to a player who isn't worth it like Green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
