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The similarities I see with Franson/Quincey is that both are respectable Dmen in their own end, and both can play a fairly physical game, but neither will put a guy thru the boards, but with Franson has the offensive upside that Quincey lacks (although Quincey might be the better skater of the 2).

From what I recall - Franson was more consistent, and dependable than Phaneuf while they were together in Toronto (although Phaneuf having more upside to his game).

Quincey is a much more steady defender than Franson. He's a more traditional stay at home type. Again, Franson just isn't that great in the defensive zone. Quincey (and Phaneuf) are also much more physical, or at least consistently physical. Franson will knock a guy down in the open ice now and again, because he's really big and heavy, but he doesn't play a physical game. At least not that I've ever seen. Kyle Quincey, on the other hand, is the opposite. Doesn't really lay guys out in open ice, but is tough on the boards, in the crease, and as a shot blocker.

Cody Franson really is just a big(ish) puck mover, with hard shot. He's more like Kindl than Quincey (disclaimer: he's better than Kindl, I get it. Just stylistically similar). People think he's physical because if you youtube "Franson hits", you'll see some quality body checks. But it's misleading. Had he come here, people would have been very disappointed in his "physical play".

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For those saying he threw away career due to drugs.

I think he's got 4 cups. Sounds like a heck of a career on paper to me.

I agree his drugs stuff was bad etc etc. But like it or not, he won the stanley 4 times. Thats more of a career than 99% of the players out there

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This is in response to Kip...Not trying to stir up an argument - however I feel Franson's physical aspect is a bit overlooked.

Quincey 73 gp, 104 hits, 82 blocked shots, 90 shots on net

Quincey played for one of the best possession teams in hockey. Franson played for one of the worst. The other day I posted a very good article with a quote from Dallas Eakins where he says that in a perfect game your team would have zero hits because you'd have the puck the whole game. Franson had a lot more opportunity to block shots and hit guys because he was playing defense the whole game.

When he went over to a good possession team (Nashville) he played himself right out of the top four, and if you were to look into it, I'd imagine he had a lot fewer hits and blocked shots (Laviolette's teams play in the O-zone more than Carlyle's do).

Again, I'm not knocking the guy. I think he's a good defenseman. But I think people are a bit off the mark when highlighting his "physical game". At least from what I've seen.

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I agree with kip. Playing defense has changed a lot these last few years and most of the league has recognized it. The super elite like Doughty and Subban best skills aren't hitting and blocking shots but they play more minutes than anybody for their skating and puck movement.

I do realize Subban and doughty do throw some big hits but it's not why their on the ice

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Going back to Nash might've been the worst case scenario since he dropped down the depth chart in a hurry, and it might've hurt him financially since his time, and quality of play at the tail end of the regular season, and playoffs with the Preds was rather ordinary when compared to his #'s while on that sinking ship known as the Toronto Maple Leafs.

I'll be paying more attention to the Sabres this season.

Nashville was just a bad fit for him. When Trotz was the coach, he fit right in, because they played a different game. Laviolette's system isn't great for Franson because speed is so important.

It's the same reason why I think Franson would have been a better choice for Detroit if we'd kept Babcock. Green would have been a disaster under Babs for the same reason that Trotz didn't use him much. The skills he brings to the table aren't valued in a system like that. This is also the same reason why Detroit wanted Phaneuf while Babs was here, and lost interest when Babs left (And why TO suddenly wanted to keep him when Babs was hired there).

Franson, and Poile, were familiar with one another and that's why he want to Nash. But the presence of Laviolette, instead of Trotz, made it doomed from the start.

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